This from an old article...

An analogy of this would be like jumping off of a chair. ...... So how do you naturally land? With a bend in your legs or course. Now even though this may help, you will still get a large shock if you contract every muscle just before you hit the ground. So that is why your leg muscles naturally relax on impact.

Some trainers say that you “feel” it more if you contract your muscles while doing the squat. Of course you do, but just like you would feel it more jumping off a chair like that, it doesn’t mean its good for you.



http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/articles-11---20/should-i-contract-my-muscles

Im thinking about muscle fiber alignment with the direction of force of vibrations. Also, what is better muscles relaxed or joints cocontracted. Any  thought on that? Thanks.

There are cheaper units around. If you want me to help you find something decent. 

By the way, I live in an apartment buiding in Europe so, for I have been reading  I think that maybe the Bodyshaker Junior is not a good idea. Am I wrong? Maybe a pivotal machine? Which one?

Thank you,

Hello,

Im over 40 years old, have started to develope varicose vains on my legs and I was thinking if vibration training could be good for me as I am thinking about getting a machine for home use.

Any advice?

Thank you,

One day all our work will be appreciated. As this disaster gets closer, and all the "experts" show everyone how useless they really are against such a massive problem. ( pun intended )

 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11615688
 

 I was actually involved in the debate right in the beginning of our industry. Only a few companies globally making units. So I can give you the full run down.

Lineal = anything under 30 hz.         

Were frequencies bellow 30 HZ ever considered harmful?

But that was before he started with the highly unethical scaremongering marketing tactics. And attacking my work for no reason. And all the other underhanded stuff that is too long to list. I suppose greed is the root of all evil.    

Lloyd  unit gets delivered this Thursday so will let you know.  Any help you can give with regards to using it is most appreciated.

Regards to the other machine  finally got a tech out today, parts arrived last week, I left the package sealed for tech to open.  He was from a  local company that services Precor, Life Fitness and all of this other companies machines, in spite of my repeatedly being told that they do not have a commercial service contractor.  Another lie.  He still couldnt fix it, they sent a supposedly new mother board which is broken.  He cannot tell me how long this repair will last, he said he has repaired or installed about 10 mother boards in machines over the past couple of months, they keep burning out.  He took the bottom unit to bits, there is no fan at all inside, and the motor does sit on the right, where it has always felt significantly stronger throught the platform.  So still not fixed.  Tech cant understand why they werent contacted in the first place either, especially as he is repairing them for little old ladies and mine is in a business.   Should have got my money back when it was offered but stupid me, I wanted to give them one last chance.

Thanks Lloyd, thats about what I thought, which is fine for my little studio.  Ive bought it and theyre delivering it next week, will install it and test it for me and make sure its good to go. Parts and service is very close by too.  Like night and day compared with the lemon I bought previously LOL.  Ah well, live and learn.  Still waiting for it to be fixed by the way ROFLMAO.

They seem to be fine with intermittent use through a day. And results are decent but you have to double up on some poses and be super strict. And also make sure the Fq varies on each workout.  Using 43 hz as your starting and most comfortable setting. 

Hi there

an opportunity has arisen to purchase a CV100 demo directly from Cardio Tech at a good price.  Lloyd, I  know you said this machine wouldnt go all day like yours, but that it was decent.  Exactly how many sessions a day would be reasonable for this machine and what sort of results would it give with the Lineal Program

Thanks

A trainer in Arizona used vibration training to help a 99 year old lady become mobile again and dance at her 100^th birthday party. (Excuse the blatant advertising of the company who supplied the machine).

This story isn’t unusual, we see amazing therapy and training results every week; it is however a feel-good story given the circumstances and it shows, again, what can be done to get sedentary people moving again. Movement = Life

http://www.3gcardio.com/blog/2016/03/15/vibration-training-helps-arizona-woman-dance-at-her-100th-birthday-party/

 Good video to watch in regards to our one sided "convesation "  with a fake VT expert  ..

 David.

Yes. But not massage. Actually do a pose but take most of the weight off that foot.

I just twisted my foot, not ankle, is vibration any helpful in healing or removing hematoma in early stages?

 Just got back into studio. My tech guy had changed something on my email to upgrade it, that was blocking all emails until I did something.

Obviously forgetting I am not always at a computer Am onto it now.

HI Di

Its just bounced back again.  Address and hyphen were all correct.  Thats ok he has my email and phone number.

Thanks for your help

Deb, Lloyds not in the studio but will be later thius afternoon so will get back to you then.

Thanks Di

Doesnt seem to have bounced this time

Lloyd

Tried again, third time lucky maybe

Hi Deb, please try again (remember the hyphen, sometimes that’s the problem)

 lloyd@vibra-train.com  

Hi Lloyd just tried to email you re my ongoing Hypervibe problem but the email came back undeliverable. Can I post what's going on here or would you rather email

thanks, Fed up in Brisbane

 David.

Yes. Perfectly safe. 

Keep us all posted on your questions, learning curve and progress. .

Hi Di and Lloyd. After all your good advice via email I have now bought the used Vibrogym! Without the site and your very helpful input I would have made a mistake and wasted a lot of money and time. Big Thanks again.

In your opinion, would force coming through foam roller putted on mat be safe for upper body?

Pat

Vibrogym Classic – phone Vibrogym and ask if they know of any secondhand machine available. These are solid steel, older units. The new Vibrogym units don’t have the same force in the vibration.

BodyShaker Junior – I think this is readily available in UK. Bodyshaker has been around forever.

Both lineal movement – remember the two main types, lineal – directly upright (if working properly) and pivotal – up/down side to side with a centre pivot.  Lineal cause a deeper muscle contraction, generally speaking, than pivotal platforms. The down point is that you must put them on a solid floor usually on a dense rubber mat. The room walls can resound the wave as noise – so not suitable for use in an upstairs apartment. Very differently, pivotal machine cause the muscle and any covering fat to shake; that look that you see in videos that is amusing to watch. At higher speeds the shake is still there but the muscle contraction is greater (must be a good quality machine).

For muscle strength I’d go for a medium - high-energy lineal machine always, if you have somewhere to put it – be careful there’s a lot of less force plastic machines, some with known brand names and glossy advertising accompanied by a poster with large number of “every pose you can dream up”.  Go for a solid machine and a simple solid, safety program.

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/lineal-and-pivotal-safety-programs

I’m not sure what you mean by quickness, acceleration off the mark – we don’t use any built in programs that change the speed etc. You don’t need that – you need a solid machine, solid program.
Note: If using a high-speed pivotal machine you do need to change speed for different positions. You risk damage to shoulders if you do the arm positions on a pivotal at high speed. Also the plank position on a pivotal is murder on shoulders so we turn it around (upper body on the ground)

Remember to eat a meal or a banana before training – the increase in blood sugar is essential to being able to hold perfect position for the full time of each pose. You quickly use up the food (calories) so don’t worry about that.  We have clients that don’t eat enough (lie to us) and they either, obviously can’t hold position, or feel lightheaded.. this applies equally to strong people as well as those who are starting out.

Once you get started, you are welcome to send a short video to me or to Lloyd to pass on to me. I’m happy to sort out any incorrect poses but be aware I won’t be kind. This is the most amazing strength training (tight, lean muscle – not bulk) you can do and it must be done correctly.