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Di Heap |
Posted On:2019-10-04 02:02:33
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Valerie
I am not familiar with the ISE Vibration Plate but pictures show me that it is a small pivotal, moves like a see saw, machine without handlebars of any sort.
That is the type of machine I used to sell and it is expecially good for people who have limited mobility or need help with circuation. It is extrememly unlikely that it would cause your stroke.. unless you used it as a pillow and put your head on the machine which I am sure no one would do.. I am trying to make you laugh.
In fact we recommend this type of machine to people like yourself once you have recovered a little. Has your doctor cleared you to do simple excercise such as go for short walks. Then you can use your little vibration machine in this way
Sit on a chair in front of the machine with your feet on the machine platform. You can wear flat shoes or just socks. Think of the machine like a see saw with a bar in the centre through the middle of the display and make sure your feet are one each side of that middle line. Very simple and natural sitting position. Turn the machine on, it will probably turn on to its lowest setting, very slowly side to side. Adjust it is you need to and use the lowest setting, not any program. There is no benefit using a higher setting.
Place your hands on your knees and thats all, just sit there feeling the gentle vibration in your legs and arms to help your circulation. 3 minutes maybe to start but 10 minutes once or twice a day is your goal. Any pain or headache or dizziness Stop immediately. You dont need to do any other exercises on the machine and you dont need to stand upright on it until you are very comfortable just sitting. You have not said what positions or exercises you were doing previously.
Please note I am not registered to give medical advice. I have used and sold these machines and worked as a Vibration Training Instructor for many years. I will add the link to an instruction video later.
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valerie |
Posted On:2019-10-03 20:37:57
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Can you tell me please if an ISE vibration plate is ok to use or is it blacklisted I have been using one since June 219 and have suffered a minor stroke and I am now worried whether or not this was caused by the vibration plate......I am 68 years old and generally physically fit. I asked the manufacturer for a safety data sheet for the machine but there was none, so I then asked Amazon to help with the issue but they have said ask the manufacturer.......which of course i have already done to no avail.
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Marilyn Hagen |
Posted On:2019-10-02 00:42:39
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Thank you Lloyd Shaw for your response. If I understand correctly, the Eurobody Shaper Pro Plus 2 (sold by Euroshine, Inc.) and the VBX 4,000 (sold by M&E Sales) are quite similar in your opinion. You highly recommend the VBX 4,000 ONLY because of the company behind it. Is that correct ?
Before hearing from you, I had purchased the Eurobody Shaper Pro Plus 2 and was considering cancelling on your recommendation, but I have missed the three day return deadline. Not knowing all the exact differences, I based my decision on the 40 years the company has been in business. I also was told and did sense that the VBX 4,000 companies representatives were not as honest and I did question their claim that the machine was considered a medical device. When I called the company to verify their claims, no one returned my call, which increased my concerns. It’s too bad, because the confirmation would have caused me to have purchased it. I do hope that my purchase has not been a mistake.
Along with the Eurobody Shaper Pro Plus 2, I also have the Euro Power Plate by Total Vibration. I would appreciate your advice on how to use both the machines I have for the health issues of fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, cerebral palsy, lupus and also for weight loss.
Thank you again!
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-09-29 09:57:10
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Marilyn Hagen
Simple pick. The VBX 4,000 . Both units are quire similar. But the company behind Euro Body Shaper has a history of being as dodgy as they get.
If you need any help using it properly, because some companies tell you just standing on the machine wobbling around is all you need to do, come back on and ask. Helped a lot of people with conditions like your before ( and still are )
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Marilyn Hagen |
Posted On:2019-09-27 11:21:12
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I would appreciate your opinion on two machines. I am needing a machine to help with fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, cerebral palsy and lupus.
The first machine is called VBX 4,000. It has two motors, 2HP, a five year warranty, it is designated a medical device and can be used as a tax deduction as such. They are located out of Bloomington, MN.
The second one is called a Euro Body Shaper. It has two motors, two modes and a vibration mode also, 2HP, a five year warranty, it is not designated a medical device, it is an exercise machine. They are located out of Brooksville, FL. They have been in business for 40 years.
Thank you so much for your help.
They both sell for around $2400.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-09-13 22:09:19
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Charlotte Stone ...
The Gravity HQ unit is the most powerful, but that company is no longer actively selling machines. But the product is good. Note: The power is not useful unless you know how to use it.
Could not find what the Elite Aspire actually is. As you can read on my review section they often just put stickers on anything. So I would need a link to give an opinion.
Jetstream = hunk of junk.
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Charlotte Stone |
Posted On:2019-09-13 13:15:44
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Hi Lloyd, I was wondering if you could please give me feedback on three machines 1. Gravtiy HQ G Plus Gravity revolution, 2. Elite Aspire and 3. Jetstream power vibe professional. I am wanting a macine more for therapeutic reasons, such as recovery, circulation promotion and bone mass recovery as I am a group fitness instructor
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Christa |
Posted On:2019-08-09 00:04:28
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I have a Power Plate My3 for sale in Allegheny County, PA. It belonged to my great uncle who recently passed away. I dont think he had a chance to use it very much before he died.
We arent able to ship it, so if someone lives in the Allegheny PA area and is interested, please email me at christak at bellsouth dot net
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-06-29 19:33:46
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Yes thankyou Di Heap. Big pain in the ass. Getting IT Guy to try and stop it.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2019-06-23 00:17:44
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So much spam on this site now. Although I no longer work for Lloyd for ages, I tried to login to remove the spam, using old saved details on my laptop, but alas my details no longer work. How do the spammers get past the CAPTCHA. There must be a way to protect this forum, its unattractive in present form.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-06-11 23:01:16
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I do have two newer units for Lease in Perth. ...If someone tries to sell those units that should be in storage they would be stolen goods. As I own them and we do not sell units to the public...
I am just checking up on their security now.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-06-11 20:22:48
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Tania...... Who is selling themk do you know
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Tania |
Posted On:2019-06-09 19:36:12
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I was just talking to Powerplate looking for a Pro5 or Pro7 commercial machine, then noticed 2 VibraTrain machines from New Zealand for sale here in Perth, 1 has vibrating bars and the other does not, are these good machines, apparently not that old either
Thanks
Tania
Nordic Fitness
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-06-05 11:00:02
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Have to aplogize for the spam this site gets. Sometimes it is just a robot, other times they are actual attacks because of the sites contents. I delete it often, so please just ignore and still ask your questions.
Lloyd Shaw
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-05-11 16:30:46
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Yes it was one of the reasons I stopped buying those units. Not only did the quality start to drop, but they refused to even look at redesigning the unit so the electronics could be swapped out in segments.
They way they had it was trying to trap owners into forking out about 7K or go out of business.
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Dillan |
Posted On:2019-05-10 19:35:00
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Thanks for getting back to me Lloyd...even if it wasnt the news I wanted. I suppose I just keep using it until it finally dies...
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-05-10 18:28:15
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Hello Dillan, glad to hear you are well.
Sorry but once those units go, they are just too expensive to fix. And I do not know of anyone who fixes them over here. ( not my design or I could do it ) .They make them solid state so it costs 7K to replace the whole electronic board.
Also the old owner of Power Plate now runs VG. And you know how trustworthy they are. He only cuts corners.
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Dillan |
Posted On:2019-05-08 19:37:05
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Hi Lloyd,
I used to work at the Botany VibraTrain studio about 10 years ago. When they shut down I bought one of their VibroGym units which I love and use a couple of times a week as part of my weight training programme. It has recently developed an intermitant fault where it just stops during a cycle and the control panels just shows vertical red lines, not the numbers. If I switch it off at the wall and turn it back on again it usually sorts itself out ok, but I am worried its on its last legs. Do you know if this is a common fault and do you have contact details of someone who can look at it for me.
Many thanks, Dillan
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-04-12 15:46:15
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Hugo
There is nothing specific you can do on the machine. But from past experience it seems to help most sufferers.
But just the standard safety program. Keep the speeds low and work on form. If you over-stimulate or over-train, it may flare up your condition.
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Hugo |
Posted On:2019-04-11 07:17:52
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I have a Revolution HQ which I got 2nd hand but is like new. My health issue is peripheral neuropathy which presents as heat in my feet and is very painful. Nothing has changed despite a lot of medical focus and dietary requirements. I am looking for some instructions for exercises to do on the HQ to see if I can get some relief. Medication is fruitless but I am sure there is a more holistic solution and I am sure the HQ will be a part of that. Any guidance much appreciated. Am I correct Rev HQ NZ have dissappeared
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-04-04 17:48:01
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Email me on lloyd@vibra-train.com and I can give you a list of electronic engineers who look after those units.
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Trent |
Posted On:2019-03-30 16:18:42
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Do you know if Gravity HQ who makes the gravity revolution is out of business.
I can t find their website anymore and have a machine of theirs and the power supply fuse went out and Im needing to figure out what fuse to replace with as I dont clearly see that.
Any feedback is appreciated
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-03-20 11:13:59
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Yes the Bulletproof unit is a very basic Medium Energy Lineal platform. Used strictly with a proper program will give good overall body composition change.
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Teresa |
Posted On:2019-03-15 06:06:51
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I have opportunity to purchase a used Bulletproof Vibe. Is it a good choice
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-02-28 16:44:32
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Paula..
Higher Fqs on Lineal are Ok for massage.
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Paula |
Posted On:2019-02-28 05:19:05
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Thank you Lloyd! Yo ur response was very helpful. Is there any application at all , in your opinion in which the higher frequencies would be beneficial
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2019-02-27 19:14:57
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Paula...
The Body Vibe unit you have has been around a long time. It is classed as a Lower - Medium Energy Lineal unit.
The Fq settings always seemed randomly high, 54 - 81 hz ( most Lineals are 30hz -- 50hz ). But it will not cause you any harm. I would work on the lower Fq to get the best out of the unit, as if it runs too fast your muscles simply stop responding properly.
The poses are the most important thing. Eg... Holding perfect angles for 60 seconds. Because the unit is quite small you will just have to do you best to replicate the most important 5 poses. Check out the Lineal program we have here...
http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/lineal-and-pivotal-safety-programs/lineal-program
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Paula |
Posted On:2019-02-26 15:09:42
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Hi, I just aquired an older model called the Body Vibe International personal1000. I believe its probably about ten years old. Its in excellent condition and works well. It was given to me and Im trying to find out more info on it. From what I can find the lowest setting appears to be 54 Hz progressing up through nine levels to as high as 78Hz. Even the lowest setting seems like a lot of Hz to me. I believe its linear, or maybe vertical....not sure. The max amplitude is 3.185mm, Max G loading is1.25, and horizontal displacement is0.38 mm. Any info you can give me on this machine would be appreciated. Im fit and used to working out, but Im not sure what the best setting would be given the lowest is already 54Hz. Thanks
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Ben Breda |
Posted On:2018-12-29 20:51:05
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I am just going to add my two cents that vibration machines really do work, and if you don't believe me, look up the research on PubMed. I have reviewed the best vibration machines out there, you can find this article here.. https://besthealthgear.com/best-vibration-machine/
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2018-12-28 11:05:02
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D....
I could have just deleted your comment. Because experience has shown me it is more likely to be scaremongering rubbish from a Personal Trainer or someone with an ulterior motive other than other people safety.Especially now it is 2018.This tech is NOT new. But I do not do that, because it would be unethical of me ( a marketer would )
The list of precautions you listed, if you got it off a list on the internet, was just that ' precautions" we as developers of the machines published over 15 years ago. Not only to be super safe, but so they could be openly discussed globally. It was quite often just copy and pasted by marketers to make it appear they were "experts" in the field.
After 15 years of large scale commercial use, most the the precaution list turned out to be just us being super safe, and have slowly dropped off to a small list of actual contraindications.
Note: It turned out "how" you use the devices was the most important factor in safety. I have only ever come across a couple of machines that were dangerous from an engineering / ergonomic point of view.
P.S. Think about this. They have been used in Children's Hospitals for full decade now, and promoted by most groups involved in helping people with the most severe disabilities. Like MD, or CP , etc... along with studies in Universities on these groups. .
If you have any idea how hard it is to get an ethics committee to pass this for at risk demographics, you would know how safe Vibration Training or Therapy is. But it has to be be added, the amount of cowboy fake experts out there selling machines, academics doing research, instructing in gyms etc....on any of the 5+ category of machines available is still a concern to people like me.
Which is why this site was set up.
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