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Dean Mistura |
Posted On:2013-05-16 06:15:29
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Jonathan
Regarding your question about vibration exercises after total achilies tendon rupture.
We use lineal vibration as part of rehabilitation six weeks after surgery, but that is suitable only with physio skilful in vibration therapy. If you are going to use it by yourself, the safest way is to wait 12 weeks to be sure healing of the tendon is finished, and then go to vibration exercise. Than you can start right on to a safety program. It will reduce any residual swelling and thickness, as well as promote flexibility.
Lloyd
Perhaps it would be a good idea to have part of this web site dedicated to usage of vibration stimuli in medicine. I think we can help my colleagues with practical advices in particular disorders, injuries, and postoperative recovery. The idea is to share experience, describe specific cases, and details in applying vibration to a patient.
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Great Vibrations |
Posted On:2013-05-16 06:14:21
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Need help we have Several Wave Vibration Plates the company has apparently gone out of business. We are having touch screen issues they cannot be repaired and we have no way to get new ones. Any ideas These are expensive high end machines that we cannot just throw away.
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Jonathan |
Posted On:2013-05-15 22:43:52
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Hi Lloyd,
I am in Canada.
So if I am understanding you right, you are saying that a premium speed pivotal is pretty much equivalent to a medium energy lineal.
I am currently looking at the Hypervibe, and around that price range. Would you recommend the Hypervibe, and are there any cons to this unit that you know of or can forsee.
Is there anything else you would recommend looking at in the under 5000 dollar range.
Lastly, I was curious about the use of WBV for rehabilitation. For example, if one were to recover from a achilles tendon rupture, would WBV facilitate the recovery process, or would it be contraindicated. What kind of exercises would you recommend.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-05-15 00:51:32
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Jonathan ...
What country are you in ???. The world is a large place and location is an important factor in any recommendations we give
Results.... A Medium Energy Lineal should give similar results to a Premium Speed Pivotal. Depending on how strict the user is.
Why we don't list brand names on the review.... Well with over 250 + brands, some of who change names or factories each year. It would be a waste of time, and useless as any buyers guide.
Instead we have categorized the machines into terms any layperson with zero engineering experience can grasp.
Eg.... very similar to vehicles.. Motor Bike, Hatch-back , 4WD or Truck ? Brands comes second to knowing what function you need first.
CV9 Vs Cardio-tech. ... here is an opinion piece by Di Heap on this very subject.....
My advice.... for any brand or type of machine is simple. Sort out a few primary poses you will most likely use. And try then out on all units. Because some designs are more suited to some positions, some no good.
Rule #1... Try before you buy.
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Jonathan |
Posted On:2013-05-14 12:33:22
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Hi,
I am looking into getting an affordable WBV machine for home use. Some questions that I have not been able to find the answer for looking through your articles are...
1. What are the pros and cons of pivotal and lineal units. I understand they are different, but what benefits could I expect from each.
2. What do you recommend for lineal units... ie. best price and performance
3. What do you recommend for pivotal units...
... in your Machine Reviews section, I cannot tell what some of the units are, as you simply only have the pictures and no names. Any thoughts on the hypervibe unit compared to the cardiotech CV9. From all I have read about, the Hypervibe seems the most affordable, but perhaps there is another unit I am not aware of.
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Di Heap/VibePlus |
Posted On:2013-05-13 11:51:33
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My new article:
Vibration Training –Women’s Anti-Cellulite Massage - Part 2 – what it feels like
(after all you are sitting on the world’s most powerful vibrators?)
http://www.vibeplus.com/2013/05/06/vibration-training-anti-cellulite-massage-part-2/
Plus, if you missed it, here’s a link to Part 1 – explaining the position and its benefits
http://www.vibeplus.com/2013/04/18/vibration-training-anti-cellulite-massage/
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-05-05 09:36:31
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Every individual or company I have attacked in the past turned out to be Con-artists. And they continue to be dishonest.
My new blacklist being published soon will give examples of reasons these companies and individuals are not men / woman of their word. So hopefully it gives you the consumer, a chance to make an educated choice to buy off them.
And yes. I will be naming names, not just companies. Because companies cant be dishonest, only people.
Please note: Some of these people had threatened legal action in the past. And told me I had simply got them wrong, or even accused me publically of being a lair. Time has shown that not to be the case. They were bad people all along.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-05-05 01:14:45
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My words repeated once again.....
Even though only a few of us can be trusted to use this knowledge and science to help you, help yourself.
Never forget for everyone one of us, there 100 who do not care but for what is in your wallet.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-04-30 14:01:53
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Which model did you purchase ?
I have sent out an email to someone in Canada ( close to Wave ) to hopefully get some info.
A bunch of marketers took over the company Wave a while ago. Before that they were very trustworthy.
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Jan |
Posted On:2013-04-30 05:11:42
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About a year ago, I purchased a WBV machine from the Wave, out of Canada. It was very noisy, so we moved it to the garage. As a result, we didnt use it for a few months. We decided we should get back into trying it again, plugged it in, turned it on, and it didnt work. Tried to contact the Wave people and it looks like they closed up. Now we dont know how to get this expensive machine thats hardly been used fixed. Any suggestions.
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Comment from Tublr |
Posted On:2013-04-28 17:50:38
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My Mum and I went for a power plate session today. After, a few exercises my Mum said she wanted to stop that she couldn’t take how much it was vibrating though her head. I tried to carry on for a while but eventually, I had to stop as well. The guy doing the session for us was like “Well this is what it’s like so….” and we ended up just stopping.
I’ve done power plate before and while it can take some getting used to, I don’t think it’s ever been like it was today. I can’t imagine anyone being able to take it. He was having us stand up on it and lift a weight and when you stand up straight you get the full vibration through your head and it’s horrible.
My Mum felt a bit annoyed about it and said she hadn’t felt safe with what she was being asked to do. She’s also annoyed with this same guy because she feels like he never took in to account that she’s a 65 year old who hasn’t ever really done gym work (she’s always done yoga, Pilates stuff like that.)
It made me think about how easy it can be to really put someone off from exercising or make them feel anxious about because you can’t really be bothered to do your job properly. It’s a real shame.
Has anyone had a bad experience like this?
This is how Power Plate is turning people off Vibration Training. Standing upright on the machine, making people lift weights ??
Pretend experts strike again.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-04-20 11:53:08
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Another story in a long line of similar stories I have read lately. Where hosts or trainers of weight loss shows gain large amounts of weight quickly.
And what do these shows have in common?
(1) Promoting exercise myths for weight loss ( aka... making fat people run around as some form of " Reality / Embarrassment TV" )
(2) All run by people who have never been obese. And are obviously clueless as to the dangers of doing cardio when over-weight. And are also delusional about how much fat cardio can burn anyway.
A small true story.....
A female celebrity trainer who in my country was known as " no excuses, trainer from hell" ( Downsize Me ) who just loved to make over-weight people run around in boot-camp style shows. Yelling at them the whole time.
Anyway near the end of one show, due to injuries some could not go ( or would not go ) to the park and run around. So the producers brought them into Vibra-Train. In 2 weeks the results were so good, ( and safe ) the over-weight contestants were ecstatic.
Until they were told by the producers they were no longer welcome at Vibra-Train, Which was a complete lie.
What had really happened ?
The celebrity trainer demanded Vibra-Train be taken out of the sessions because it made her look basically redundant ( making someone stay still does not take much yelling ) I only found out about this some time after the show finished. Talking about putting your own ego before your clients results.
She is now overweight ( 20kg heavier ) And of course now making all the excuses in the world.
What I would love to do.....
Get some of these now over-weight trainers and put them in a show. Where someone 10 years younger than them gets to yell at them and run around in circles.
And then make them give back all the money they took giving out BS advice.
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John |
Posted On:2013-04-19 01:06:56
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Even researchers will say the quality of research is poor. Dr. Greg Haff, who I have met, recently said on social media that he is now officially a citizen of Australia which means he will be able to get some quality research done. Dr. Haff is from the US and went to Edith Cowan University in Australia to be a professor instead of stay in the US. So, Dr. Haff sure must not think much of a lot of exercise research at universities in the US.
John T. Weatherly
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-04-16 21:57:15
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" Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas "
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Di Heap/VibePlus |
Posted On:2013-04-16 18:58:19
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Lloyd, you left out half of the press release.
Vibrogym has appointed both Guus Van der Meer and also Jelte Tempelaars to it’s top management. The press release says, they will be working alongside their original marketing team, Entice Communications, who helped drive the profile of Power Plate International over the last 9 years. The release says their enthusiasm and expertise will take Vibrogym to the next level.
We all know what the “next level” was for Powerplate - administration, that it hasn’t crawled out of. Can I say “gone” , “finished” , “leaving customers with no hope of support or service for machines”.
The level for Vibrogym ..... will be interesting to watch.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-04-16 15:50:26
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Vibro Gym must be desperate
This from their own website.....
" delighted to announce the appointment of industry innovator Guus Van der Meer to its management team "
" Guus left Power Plate International after its recent fall into administration ",.
"When production for Power Plate machines was subsequently transferred to China ( by Guus himself ) , the initial manufacturer in the Netherlands continued to produce, develop and sell the original design under the name Vibrogym.
Guus now says...... " I am delighted to be going back to our roots, working again with the original manufacturer, who uses the very best materials, technology and design to deliver a machine that excels in durability, performance and quality".
So lets spell this out folks .....
(1) The guy who got fake machines made of the Dutch machine. All of which broke.
(2) High-jacked the goodwill of the original steel machine for marketing purposes.( fake awards etc... ) .
(3) Then goes on to "design" a machine worse than anything else ever produced ( real plastic piece of crap ) .
(4) Started the whole fake specification issue, which has widely effected hundreds of research papers.
(5) Then proceeded to oversee the biggest failure of any Vibration Training company,( putting Power Plate into administration ).
Vibro Gym just committed suicide taking this guy on.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-04-13 00:44:11
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There are 4 companies who made public claims on a number of subjects. All claiming to be "experts".
But all fail epically.
I will be naming and shaming not only the companies, but the individuals who made the claims.
All in the name of full disclosure.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-04-12 18:12:26
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What I love are the experts who stated for the record. The faster and higher the machine went, the better.
These people are no smarter than the ones who didn't test the machines at all.
Dangerous idiots who need to be kicked out of our industry.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-04-12 17:18:08
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Yes, our industry is full of fake experts
All the way from these academics who pretend to be experts, to the con-artist salespeople pretending to give a shit about peoples health.
All bottom feeders who live out of fear of being exposed. Which in time I promise they will be.
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John |
Posted On:2013-04-12 15:10:25
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I have recently noticed several articles that have been critical of research, the current state of the"peer review" process, and the conclusions reached from research studies. One pointed out, and this is almost always true in exercise studies which usually have a few subjects instead of hundreds or thousands, that statistical power is always low with a small number of subjects. Another, from Stanford Medicine, reported how many scientists now do not seem to be able to argue effectively and this is needed for critical thinking. You look at the vibration research and it just makes you want to either laugh or cry. Studies have been published on vibration in "peer reviewed journals" that did not test the vibration equipment to see if it operated properly with loads before doing the studies and publishing the results, studies have been "funded" at universities by companies like Power Plate etc. Power Plate had a fake Medical and Scientific Advisory Board, a fake Power Plate Research Center at a university that Dr. Jeff McBride told me on the phone existed because Power Plate "gave us some money," and meta analyses may have been published in "research journals" which combined the results of numerous vibration studies without checking to see if the studies included in the meta analyses tested the equipment for reliability under loaded conditions etc. And these are supposed to be "researchers" at "universities." We need to toss all these invalid studies out and start over.
John T. Weatherly
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John |
Posted On:2013-04-03 15:51:01
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I received one of my degrees at Iowa State and it is a good school. This is unfortunately typical of the field of exercise or sports "science." Resistance training programs can be designed for competitive weightlifting, powerlifting, bodybuilding, a specific sport or posiition within a sport, for general fitness, etc. Many studies are done on recreationally resistance trained college students which really tells you very little or nothing about training athletes for a specific sport etc or other populations such as the obese or elderly. These studies are specific to the subject population and need to be carefully interpreted before making recommendations for others who deviate from this population. The same is true of vibration studies using different platforms etc. and the fact that many studies were published in "peer reviewed" journals that did not even test platforms to see if they operated with reliability under loaded conditions before doing the studies and publishing them shows you how poor some of the "research" is. And when you have equipment companies funding research on their own equipment, it is hard to see how anybody with an IQ above room temperature would accept the results without some serious questioning and full disclosure on research publications in "peer reviewed research journals." I have heard the saying "common sense is not so common anymore" and it certainly seems to apply in intances such as these.
John T. Weatherly
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-03-31 11:19:42
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Associate Professor Panteleimon Ekkekakis, an exercise psychologist at Iowa State University carried out an experiment where people's moods were tested when they exercised.
He found that people's tolerance to the pain factors caused by exercise could be up to 50 per cent genetic.
Participants were made to exercise until they were out of breath and reached a point known as their 'ventilatory threshold'.
The outcome of the study ? A lot of people hate exercise. As opposed to the more logical conclusion that most people hate cardio exercise.
Another "expert" with a limited imagination and knowledge.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-03-24 18:58:53
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A classic example of academics who's ignorance can actually hurt peoples wellness goals .
Under the headline....
You might as well stay on the couch because keeping fit 'can't stop our muscles ageing'
It goes on to say...
The researchers found specific chemical markers, or fingerprints, for muscle ageing. Once they identified the chemical signatures, the scientists were able to see how they reacted to endurance training.
They were looking for improvements in the patients who were exercising. But they soon realized that the volunteers' hard work in the gym did not stop their muscles from deteriorating.
So "endurance training" is obviously the limit to their understanding of "exercise". Never mind the fact we already know cardio and over-training breaks down muscle tissue ( which is why long distance runners look like crap ) .
So dumb it makes me want to cry. .
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Di Heap/VibePlus |
Posted On:2013-03-22 16:24:47
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They are both basically Therapy Machines with some Training values if used properly.
You need to ask specific questions about their use for your purpose. It depends what your goals are.
Check out this article: http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/articles-61---70/therapy-poses-training-poses-whats-the-difference
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Linda |
Posted On:2013-03-22 14:22:10
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Please comment on whether the VibraTrim vt400 a good machine. This company also makes a machine called Vibacore 1000. Is either of these a good choice.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-03-19 20:36:10
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Man I have to deal with some idiots on a daily basis.
Had this jerk come in today. He told me he had an accident a while ago ( walked in, so was mobile ) Apparently his surgeon told him to try out Vibra-Train to help his broken ankles recover.
At first I sat him down in a chair as per the "seated leg stimulation pose"
He then tried 1 minute in the assisted therapy pose. ( #3 on that poster ) He was instructed to take a majority of weight through the arms, to protect his once broken ankles. I told him I would not charge him for the training for a dozen sessions or so until he was convinced it would help him.
This is when he started to loudly tell me he felt it in his arm muscles, and "it was not like cycling ?? ". He then accused me of being a "guru like salesperson and my sales pitch would not work on him".
I unceremoniously told him where to put his opinion.
You know. Some people don't want help and don't deserve it.
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John |
Posted On:2013-03-08 13:00:44
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I am sure Lloyd and Chris Beardsley must be cooperating on the review paper Chris mentioned. Keep us posted on how this is proceeding Lloyd.
John T. Weatherly
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2013-03-05 18:38:46
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HBH
That company has been selling machines with fake specs for years. To the disabled and elderly alike at trade / home shows.
They are very aware of the issue, as I have had direct contact with the staff on a forum ( all 52 comments were taken down for obvious reasons ) . The salespeople admitted the specs were fake, but then tried to justify why it should be allowed.
They also claimed to have designed and built the machine. The fact is, it is an $80 machine from China. The truth about the specs and its source would drop the price considerably. So they lie.
Be very wary of that company.
Please note: Nothing wrong with the machine. As long as your expectations fit the design.
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Di Heap/VibePlus |
Posted On:2013-03-05 10:13:08
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Legit for what use?
Check out the machine reviews here and you will find out more about the machine – see the section ‘low speed pivotal’
http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/machine-reviews
The Sales sites I looked up listed inaccurate specs or none at all
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HBH |
Posted On:2013-03-05 05:59:19
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Saw a machine called Power Step Plus from OMG at a Home and Patio Show.
Is this a legit machine
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