Rachel,

Dhyana from GravityHQ here.  Where abouts are you based?  I would love to help you out with a demo of our machine.

It is very much a case of having the right machine of course, but even more about having the right support for your personal use once you have it.  There is a safe and correct way to be guided to using the higher speeds without discomfort, and not all sellers have the experience to know the ins and outs of this when demonstrating use.

For others out there trying out pivotal machines, remember that they are not linear, and where you place your feet on the plate makes a big difference to how deeply your muscle will react and how comfortable injured or weaker joints will be while it is moving. (Especially up in the higher speeds) and also how much your head and neck will be affected.

Anyone is welcome to ask questions about this from me at info@gravityHQ.co.nz

Hope that helps

I gave the hyper vibe a go today however I would like to check out the gravityhq and cv9 as seen these are recommended to compare. The hyper vibe seemed pretty good, I think they had it on too high for me but I could certainly feel it.  Unfortunately they didn't know much about it and the guy who is to be the expert is yet to be trained.  If there is someone who can tell me where I can check out the cv9 or gravityhq in Chch and what they retail for.  Thanks

Hi there vibration training lovers,

I am Dhyana of GravityHQ.

We make the Gravity Revolution, a premium speed pivotal vibration training machine that is suitable for both training and Rehab work.

We are based here in NZ and like Lloyd, we believe that included with any machine purchase, the correct support on how to use a true machine at home is really necessary for safe results at home.

Along with a few other legitimate manufacturers, and Lloyd, we hope to create an environment of learning for home users of WBV so that the industry as a whole becomes a real and beneficial tool for health and fitness in the home. 

If used correctly, WBV creates support for joints, balance, circulation and weight control through muscle activation (like any correct exercise but with speedier results).

I stress the “if used correctly” comment. For example if you do a squat on a machine, correct form of the exercise not only adds value to the outcome, it ensures the safety of the joints throughout the movement.

To this end, when you purchase our high level Gravity Revolution, you will also receive (along with a safe exercise chart) elite access to a physio designed site that includes videos, articles and specific workout designs that will help ensure you get real and safe results for whatever condition you are getting the machine for.

We are displaying our machine at the Mystery Creek Field Days for the next two days.  I encourage anyone who is looking for a serious machine and has tried other brands to come along and compare the machine, the advice and the type of support you can expect when you purchase.  Or you can email us on info@gravityHQ.co.nz

I also encourage questions in this forum and I look forward to sharing my experience with health and training along with the other professionals who share their valuable knowledge of this exciting training and wonderful opportunity to take home health to the next level.

Have a great day everyone

Rachel, I have a CV9 in the studio where I work. Because I work mostly with lineal VibraTrain machines I only let people use the CV9 for therapy eg people who have had a stroke or have major balance problems.

BUT I use the CV9 myself sometimes  using the workout program and I find it really challenging. If I couldn't use a VibraTrain it's the machine I would use. I've trialled Hypervibe once or twice a few years ago and it's okay too but there's no doubt in my mind which one I'd buy. Think about backup and after sales support. We can help you with questions but for any machine support you have to go to the supplier. Cardio tech for the CV9, a well established exercise equipment provider. I'd personally chase up the managing director I'd you had an problems they didn't fix fast and Id get them fixed. Hypervibe is also Australia based and you can expect support also.

There's another option well worth looking into, a new machine called GravityHQ  it's a NZ company and from what I know the machine would be equal to either of the two above with NZ support.

like Lloyd says, get your head around a program first. The machine . Platform size, force, quality etc had to work with the program you plan to use.

Thank you Lloyd. I guess like everything you want everything.  I have seen what the health station has done for my friend and I've read about the hyper vibe,  I guess I don't want to just keep reading and do nothing.  I see elite fitness sell hyper vibe which I could try in store however do you know who the supplier , retailer, for cv9. I want to feel good on the inside and out and do something with stress and have good sleeps.  Get rid of stress weight and feel toned and healthy.  Would I be wasting my time with the vm2

Hello Lloyd. Wow I'm addicted to reading all this information so I'm clear.  I'm based in Christchurch is there a vibra train here.  You were kind enough to give me advice member name trendy. My friend has a health station platinum and she has been getting positive results.  I'm also aware of the many gimmicks that get sold so you can get quite disheartened when all its been is the wrong information.  What interests me is the circulation as I have a poor immune system and losing some weight and toning.  Basically what most people want.  How would the health station compare to the vm2. Or would both do what I am looking for.  Appreciate your advice, I feel your mission to saving lives and helping people feel better about themselves is very humbling. Thank you Rachel 

mellow (and disheartenedUS)

You need to match up the program you intend to use and the money you want to spend - to the machine you want to buy. Will the machine be suitable for the program – eg, platform size

You get what you pay for – is very often true when it comes to home vibration machines.  A cheaper or lower spec machine can give strength/fitness results only if you are very specific with the program.  I’ve even had people email me videos showing their poses – expecting me to congratulate them when they are so far from accurate pose, I want to cry.

DisheartenedUS

Please go back to TZone and ask them to clarify the real frequencies the machines operate at and get back to us.

The Aerobic Golf Brochure says:

On the HD Digital Console display picture:  One-Touch Quick Speeds – 25, 50, 75, 100 Vibration Frequency

Under Features:  oscillates up to 30 times per second

Seeing as frequency for vibration machines is defined as the “number of times per second” one of these statements is misleading.

I will also be emailing them to gauge their response.

OK, so what machine is the most reasonably priced in the US that will do the job.  It will be just me for home use, so really dont want to spend a huge amount on it.

I apologize for another post, but I learned that TZone has a couple of newer machines, Aerobic Plus and Aerobic Golf  Sports, that I am interested in as well.  So, any feedback you may have on these would be appreciated too.

Lloyd....thank you your response.  I reached out to CardioTech to see if they had plans of making the CV9 machine available in the US.  They responded and said they did not, but recommended a company in the US by the name of TZone.  I lam currently reading about TZones VT20 machine.  I would appreciate any feedback that you may have about this machine.  Thanks for your time.

OK, so maybethe RS 2000 isnt for me, because I am a female in my late 50s  and not too overweight.  I dont want to use it for "therapy", but rather for toning.  I do pilates reformer workouts, play tennis, walk.  I want something that can tone my arms and overall body.  Because of my age, my arms are starting to look loose and getting saggy.  I am in the US.  Is there a machine for under 1,000 dollars that can do that for me

I have read thru a good bit of information on this site and have come to the conclusion that, if I want a decent quality vibration machine for home use in the United States, that I am screwed.  Is this correct.....thanks.

Machine types - Take a look here:
 http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/machine-reviews

And read this article also:
 http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/articles-31---36/general-consumer-warning-about-cheap-pivotals

In my opinion the small unit RS2000 is okay – for that type of portable machine. 

NOTE: These machines are not the same as High Speed Pivotal, or High or Medium Energy Lineal machines.

For people with low mobility, they can be good for helping blood circulation and keeping the leg muscles relaxed (and even helping bone density). This type of unit should be in every older persons home and hospitals.

For people with full mobility, they can be used for pre-exercise warm up and post-exercise cool down.  Also good for therapy, especially of knees when used with the proper safety program. The increased blood circulation promotes healing and the slightly enhanced body metabolism promotes that "feel good" sensation that improves mood and positivity.  

The RS3000 is the handlebar version, also useful for people who have limited mobility who can stand on the machine at low speed to help balance and proprioception.  Also by using the Pivotal Machine Safety Program the machine can give some simple fitness benefits for some people (particularly those who haven’t followed any form of exercise).

Two factors you need to look at:

1.       What do you want the machine for? What are your goals and what is your starting situation – age, weight, mobility, current fitness. This category of machines degrade in  performance at higher user weight.

2.     Are you happy to pay the price asked for the machine? – in New Zealand these machines can be bought online for 1/10 of the price on that website.  Many are available on auction sites, ebay, trademe etc – look at the machine type, not the name. They come from the same factory, no matter what name is on the handlebar (there are some exceptions but few).

Pivotal Machine Safety Program: 

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/uploads/pdfs/Pivotal-Safe-Strength-Poster.pdf

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/lineal-and-pivotal-safety-programs/pivotal-program

So are the Rock Solid machines, RS 2000 and RS 3000, good functional machines even though the specs are overstated.  I just want a machine that does what it needs to do.

Thanks

Lis

What franchise? In my opinion – be careful believing what you are told by salespeople, check it all out as you are doing.

I understand that Hypervibe has changed its distributorships often, now supported by Elite Fitness (which doesn’t have the best reputation in this industry).  You would be dealing with the real  company offshore for any problem. 

Hypergravity HQ is a New Zealand company, ask them more questions if you want to. They are new but we are developing a good relationship with them and it’s a good machine.  I’m hoping to get one in the studio here soon.

The brochure calls it  Gravity Evolution Frequency to 30hz amplitud to 13mm 1000 Wmotor 

The main issue with them is that nowhere on their brochure is a  business address, only a email and 0800 number  so Im concerned about aftersales service. I  assume  these machines need belts replaced adjusted from time to time. 

Today I saw the Hypervibe  Performance machine at Elite Fitness  which is the same price and seems a similar quality   and spec with the advantage of a visible franchise behind it. 

I saw the Gravity HQ machine at the Wgtn Home Show today  do you have any comments about it  they are asking  3k for it, so Im assuming that its better than the basic cheapies ones  gravityhq.co.nz  but Im not finding much online pro or con them