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Connie |
Posted On:2017-01-23 13:45:45
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Hi again. Ive been waiting expectantly to get my Gravity Revolution and then got a large blood clot in my saphenous vein. Ive read that its not smart to use a wbv machine at this point Do you have input
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2017-01-19 15:15:11
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Hello Michael
Yes. Not only is it a good unit, with a higher KN value than any Power Plate ( imperative for your results not to plateau but also not drop specs under your weight ), it is also backed up by a real company, not some random salesperson.
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Michael |
Posted On:2017-01-18 18:09:10
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Hi Lloyd.
I am seriously considering buying a Gravity Revolution here in NZ but only because I cannot buy one of your machines, smiley face.
I am 53 years old and weigh 160kg. About 7 years ago, I trained, in South Africa, for about 8 months with an excellent trainer on a Powerplate and had good initial results in that I lost some weight, built muscle and the body felt really good. I am wondering how the Gravity Revolution will compare, I assume it is a far better machine than the PP.
Any advice will be most welcome.
Cheers, Michael
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2017-01-13 20:25:49
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Well we got attacked hard out this last week. Seems to happen each time we make a certain company angry. ( they are dumb enough to brag about it )
But we are up and running again. Comment away..
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-12-29 16:44:08
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All good mate. To clarify....
(a) When you try the Hypervibe G17 Pro , imagine a machine that feels about 4 times more powerful, that's the NEW Gravity Revolution.
It has some very smooth but powerful settings too, so no issue with the head thing.
Note. Most salespeople get people to stand on a Medium Energy Lineal with locked legs, which is a banned pose ( ok for very weak physio units ) . They are too ignorant to know this of course.
Once you get your unit, we will be guiding you and your loved ones all the way mate. From day one and for as long as you need us.
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Connie |
Posted On:2016-12-29 12:01:35
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oops NEW Gravity Revolution
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Connie |
Posted On:2016-12-29 12:00:51
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Hi again Lloyd smiley face
I must not have asked my question clearly. The only machine I want at this point is the Gravity Revolution.
Question 1 Would testing a Hypervibe G17 Pro give me a sense for whether or not I would like the new Gravity Revolution.
I would assume so except you said it felt like a heavier lineal machine. The other machine that is available to test are Power Plates. I did stand on my Mother in laws older PP once and my back cramped up. Of course I didnt know how to stand, etc.
Question 2 Would the new Gravity Revolution shake my head a lot ...A pivotal salesperson told me that lineal machines move your head like crazy and most people find them quite uncomfortable. He said that yours a in a completely different category and dont have that issue. I know the new Gravity Revolution is a pivotal but you said it felt like a heavier lineal machine.
Hope this clarifies... Thanks a zillion....I dont know what Id do without your help.
Connie
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-12-29 10:02:33
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Just follow this guide , so the brand does not matter. ( because some brands have both types of units. And put stickers on anything they can buy from China )
So understanding the "types" are all important.
The best position to try all units is a basic squat. ( hold onto handle bar and lower into a semi squat pose , feet about 5 inches apart, straight ,and flat on the ground.)
Important : Do not let the salesperson just wind up a machine, especially a Pivotal, to show off. They might hurt you. Also do not let them BS to you.
Read this to clarify.....
http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/articles-61---70/no-such-thing-as-a-bad-machine
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Connie |
Posted On:2016-12-28 18:27:27
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Since there is no lineal machine here that I want since it seems like the DKN is the only option that is decent but not for me because of my weight. That leaves pivotals and it seems that the new Gravity Revolution is the way to go for the same reason. Now it seems I need to test something to give me a sense whether I will like that.
1. What type of machine am I looking for...pivotal or linear. i.e. Would a Hypervibe, PowerPlate or 3GCardio be best. Id just bit the bullet and order the new Gravity Revolution now except I keep getting told I need to test...smiley face.
2. Since Im not testng a specific machine but the type of machine, is the best way to test it to stand on it in one of the poses and make sure it feels okay...
Have a great evening.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-12-28 16:08:13
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Connie..
Best way to test any machine for you, is run the machine without being on it. Close you eyes , listen to it carefully and put your hand on the platform. Feel its power.
Then run the machine at the same level with you on it. It it feels or sounds like it has lost power, you know it is straining and it will not give the best results.
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Connie |
Posted On:2016-12-28 11:16:21
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Lloyd, I so appreciate your input and you calling Gravity Revolution. I have a message in to them asking regarding cost. Looks like my next step is to test a Hypervibe and a 3GCardio. Would the new Gravity Revolution feel more like the 3GCardio. Id love it if you would give me instructions on testing a machine...in this case to see what type I like rather than the specific machine.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-12-28 10:30:50
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First off.... " . Would it be profitable to try the Hypervibe just to see how a pivotal feels and the 3GCardio to see how a lineal feels "
YES .... There is nothing worse than getting a unit and hating he feeling of it. Just make sure you get back to me on instruction on how to test a machine. The sales staff are usually useless.
You are correct, for the most part Pivotal's are not so effected by body weight as long as the quality is OK. And you don't have to run them on full speed to get results. It is 90% all about positioning on the machine .
But yes Pivotal's in general are limiting compared to what I use. But that is another subject really, so I will cut to my straight up opinions on your options.
(1) Either the CV9 or the Gravity Revolution from SpiceWellness is a good choice. Both big enough surface to do the basics. And they will look after you warranty wise
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(2) Considering your weight, a good choice would be the new Gravity Revolution directly from N.Z.. It has the added KN Force in its construction to give the machine the feel of a heavier Lineal unit. ( I have tried it myself. Quite impressive )
I just got off the phone to them, and they could ship you one at the end of Jan if you take the shipping costs. As they have no distributer yet. If you are interested in this, I advise you deal with them directly.
(3) DKN XG10 is the best Lineal you will get that side of the U.S. Mainly because of its steel construction and the companies good rep......but yes with your weight it is pushing the boundaries of the unit.
(4) 3G Cardio Piss weak and very cheap design.
(5) Power Plate .... just such a risk. Company and platforms have been so unstable in every way. I only tell people to go there if there really is no other option. Note: They gift units to teams for marketing purposes. Most units sit in the corner and collect dust or it is used for massages / warmup only.
(6) Sorry...... I never retail my unit. Too big and powerful not to be used without supervision.
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Connie |
Posted On:2016-12-28 08:11:29
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Im in a pickle . . . the only products sold exercise stores in Minneapolis are Power Plate and 3GCardio. Even in Chicago which is 9 hours away there seems to be a dearth of products sold and therefore no where to go to try out a machine. There is a possibility of being able to try a hypervibe that is in a "medical" office and the Power Plate and 3GCardio in a store.
My options for purchase are
1. CV9 associated with CardioTech Australia with website cardiotechvibration.com The motor is 400W
2. CV9 from Spice Wellness in Canada where it says that The Canadian CV9 was reengineered to reach a true 28 Hz and has Weight Adjust Sensitivity, everything else is the same as the Australian 22 Hz model. This makes me a bit nervous. The motor is listed as 900W
3. Gravity Revolution from Spice Wellness in Canada
4. DKN XG10 from www.dknusa.com
5. Power Plate Commercial models from Minneapolis store
6. 3GCardio from Minneapolis store
Here are my questions
1. Would the DKN XG10 with KN 3.2 lose its effectiveness since I am very obese . . .275 lbs and short ..and thus make a pivotal better for me
2. Would it be profitable to try the Hypervibe just to see how a pivotal feels and the 3GCardio to see how a lineal feels
3. Youve mentioned results on a pivotal machine will plateau. What might that that look like for me. Di mentioned that she finds the CV9 suitable for building fitness and strength. Considering my weight, what might results look like for me
4. Does the weight of machine make a difference since I am so overweight Gravity Revolution is 60 Kg in weight compared to the 51.5 kg
5. Ive read a lot on this site and LOVE it. But the hold of Power Plate in the US and the recommendation by Mercola and its use by pro athletic teams makes me think that people are getting results from it and perhaps I should go that route. EEK
6. Any way to buy a Vibratrain and ship it to me
Thank you for all your help
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-12-27 10:21:46
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Dear Connie,
Well first off you really need to try before you buy as to the action of the machine. As Pivotal and Lineal feel so different from each other, they are not comparable. Most people love one, hate the other or vice versa.
And this is a lifetime investment. So you really want to be sure .
Is there anywhere, like a exercise equipment store close to you.
PS... Sorry about the restrictions on the typing It is to stop hackers ( we get attacked a bit by agnry scam artists .
Also my comment regarding the DKN XG10 was about someone wanting a copy of my Lineal units, or something close. But there is nothing US based even close. .... The DKN series are the only practical option.
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Conne |
Posted On:2016-12-27 07:02:45
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I forgot to mention that I have some edema in my legs.
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Connie |
Posted On:2016-12-26 17:11:04
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I live in a small town in the US and am looking for a recommendation. My husband and I are on opposite ends of the spectrum for health. Our driving reason is my health ... knees hurt the more I walk so I sit a LOT, short, 275 lbs. He is 6 feet, slim and athletic with a spot in lower back that hurts. We can spend substantially more than 4000 dollars to get a lasting machine that would work well for both of us. Due to our location, Im interested in something that will not need repairs or is easy for a machine savvy person to fix.
Ive noted that you recommended the DKN XG10 but in another spot you said there were no good lineal options in the US. Another option might be the CV9 or Gravity REsoloution from Spice Wellness.
What are your thoughts...What would you consider the pros cons of the unit or units you recommend. Thank you sooo much.
ps No symbols will type and I could not cut and past from Word or Notepad.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-10-27 14:38:43
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KER
Sorry but I will not "open my mind " to companies quite obviously trying to blur the lines between real Vibration Training platforms and Vibration Physio equipment.
I support both forms of this technology . Always have, always will. But I never support misleading marketing.
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KER |
Posted On:2016-10-27 12:26:58
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We use it in the am, and pm theres nothing better. I can now bend down to line up a put. Open your mind.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-09-29 16:57:15
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Consumer Warning....
Vibrosaun A lie down light vibration bed that is also a sauna is claiming to simulate real Vibration Training.
Eg from their Australian Fecebook page....
." Used in VFA football clubs, gyms and health clinics around the world, Vibrosaun is giving athletes the leading edge, increasing muscle and bone mineral density to ensure a healthy body for years to come."
Sorry but that is a complete lie. What they are describing is Vibration Training, which solely describes the benefits of using a series of strict poses on a High Energy Lineal Vibration Platform .
By doing this they are deliberately disrespecting the years of hard work by honest VT experts and designers of machines to making the mode of exercise excepted and validate it.
These dishonest clowns set us back years. On the Blacklist they go.
Note: It is such a shame. Because the Therapy Applications are fantastic.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-09-22 17:12:07
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Tony...
If you have had it years. It will be their old model. The one we endorsed. ( we just didn't endorse their ethics )
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Tony |
Posted On:2016-09-21 17:32:22
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To Josh, I have had a Hypervibe machine for many years. Works perfectly. Just to let you know.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-09-06 16:36:28
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More Physio orientated than Workout / Weightloss in the way they are using the machine in their videos. Note: Their so called expert is a dishonest person for saying just standing on it is a workout. In fact they show no workout poses.
Very important point..... The 1 hour marketing quote they stole only applies to using any machine in a strict manner.
Both units are Ok if used properly.
For the prices they are asking. I would highly suggest you look at other brands that have a good reputation in Vibration Training. Not some company that sells toys and other stuff. This is your health we are talking about.
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Mavis Judkins |
Posted On:2016-09-06 04:50:25
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The list of Power Plate Studios that have now closed permanently. With rumors of broken machines just beyond the warranty date and simply too expensive to repair being the main cause.
Often studios were initially were busy with a number of machines being used at any one time. But as the machines suffered breakdowns from the commercial use frustrated clients quickly lost interest.
Sometimes refunds were demanded. Putting more stress on the owner / operators.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2016-08-22 15:46:15
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Justin....
I have no idea what is going on. We have one here in the studio and a number of athletes use it for balance positions ( they are competitive paddle boarders ) and they find it difficult to hold perfect positions for the full minute.
Two questions...
(1) What program are you using ?
(2) What Fq are you running the unit at ?
Not everybody responds to the higher fqs on Pivotal's like the "experts" say.
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Justin |
Posted On:2016-08-22 14:30:35
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Hi, my wife has had a Cardiotech VT12 for a number of years and was very happy with the results she gained from using it. We recently upgraded the to Cardiotech CV9 and have had nothing but disappointment with it. The item is advertised as the latest and greatest but in practice is does not seem to do anything for her at all. We have spent a lot of time using the machine and with no results, no muscle soreness and not even any feeling of the muscles working.
To test my theory about the item not working my muscles Ispent 30 minutes on the CV9 in various exercises and felt no muscle activation. I then went to our old machine a few days later and did the same workout and within seconds of commencing the first exercise I could feel my muscles activate. I am very disappointed with the machine and Cardiotech have made all types of excuses for the lack of muscle activation andor soreness and the lack of results.
Have you conducted any reviewtesting of the Cardiotech CV9 and if so do you have any thoughts on the quality of the item.
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Josh |
Posted On:2016-07-19 14:40:33
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Lloyd seems your prediction with hypervibe and Murray Seaton was on the money.Vindicates the blacklist.
Got these off their own facebook page.
Worst company ever, they take your money and run. I paid $3495 for a G17-Pro machine for my personal training business in July 2015 because it's "ideal for clinical use, pro level conditioning, strength and power." It broke down completely after only 5 months and Hypervibe could not or would not send a service technician out despite several phone calls/emails (it would be exorbitant cost - I'm in Brisbane and they're on Sunshine Coast??!!) After that I just wanted my $3495 back which they just keep talking around, accusing me of breaking the machine, saying they've never had one break before. Funny their NZ rep said they DO break and in that case they always perform a service call. So fed up I've reported them to QLD Office of Fair Trading and even they can't seem to get an answer; I will have to take legal action now to get a refund per Australian consumer LAW. This has been going on since 7 December 2015. No Customer Service and no technical backup - do NOT waste your money.
This company basically takes your money and runs. I bought the Hypervibe G10 mini (which is NOT portable and weighs a hefty 24kg, the 'mini' in the title is very misleading).
Hypervibe sent me a defective machine. There was no display panel, it only vibrated at the one speed on which it was impossible to even stand on. It shook my furniture and floors, it was dangerous. I have been chasing my $995 since it was delivered on the 24th of December 2015, and have spent a lot of my time calling and emailing back and forth. Customer Service is extremely bad. Hypervibe delivered a faulty product, by consumer law I am entitled to a full refund. My bank details were given a week ago and the $995 has not been refunded. Hypervibe keeps stalling and 'intending' to pay. I have no choice but to involve my solicitor. Do yourself a favour and don't waste your time or money dealing with this dodgy company.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-07-19 08:24:45
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I like the product and the small amount of forward thinking in the design.
Basic Pivotal Vibration Physio unit. With some Training potential ( if used correctly ) Better construction than most. The plate could be a bit bigger.
I especially like the seated accessories and the large analogue buttons and dials on the control panel. Usually extremely durable and easy to use for all ages. ( expect some young people don't actually know what a dial is. No kidding )
Only real negative. They are not very clear that just standing on the machine will not achieve all the results they promote.
Note: I contacted this company some time ago to clarify some questions I had, but got no reply.
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Gina |
Posted On:2016-07-18 14:34:46
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Considering www.lifetimevibe.com appreciate input on this and how it fares with the other machines on your lists. Thank you.
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SH@W Science , Honesty @ Work |
Posted On:2016-07-14 14:26:04
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In our opinion in is simply an overpriced small Pivotal unit.
Not as powerful as I would have expected considering all the claims made by the company.
Looks flash though.
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shona |
Posted On:2016-07-14 12:11:47
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I am doing some research into vibration machines when I stumbled on this site. I had virtually decided to purchase the HyperVibe Mini . We are in Australia. can you tell me if this machine has this " "faulty power plate. Thanks Shona
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