To clarify the post below:  A few nuts is NOT a meal

Reminder to Instructors – If you are training people on High Energy Lineal Machines, such as Vibra-Train and BodyShaker, it is essential – Rule Number 1 – that your clients eat before they train.

Note:  Eat means – a complete meal around an hour before the session OR foods that rapidly raise the blood sugar such as a banana, even a few squares of chocolate just before training.

Ask  your clients “what did you eat?”  – not  “have you had something to eat?”

Refusal to eat adequately = no training session.  Be very strict on this.

At Vibra-Train studios you will be praised, never reprimanded, if you send a customer away because they haven’t eaten.  Many studios have cafes nearby so it’s the customer’s choice to get some food and come back later, or not.

Not eating before training can mean a client becomes hypoglycaemic during or after the session.  This can mean just a little lightheaded and needing rest, some people totally pass out and this happens without warning.  Also consider that many people jump into their car and head off to work or home immediately after their session; if their blood sugar is still dropping they could suddenly feel very unwell.

Even after eating well some people feel a little dizzy during or after training; especially after their first session which can be a lot more intense than expected.   Keep some glucose sweets or barley sugars behind the front desk and offer these. They are also useful during the session for people who have felt unwell previously or whom you believe have not eaten adequately.

Lloyd,

Is it ok if I do vibration training workout 4 or 5 days straight and then rest 2 or 3 days straight?

Thank you in advance.

Probably around 5 years ago now I was speaking on the phone with a professor at the U of Oklahoma who had sent me a review article on vibration studies.  I thanked the professor for emailing me the article but then told him the article did not differentiate between the different platforms used in the studies.  The professor said "so the type of plaform or vibration device could influence the results."  He agreed with me but it was the way he said it that made it almost "laughable" to me.  Just think - these "expert researchers" in their "peer-reviewed" review article grouped all the studies together - no matter which or what type of platform was used.  It is just bizarre.  And besides that many of the studies included in the "review article" did not even test the platforms to see if they performed as advertised under loads before doing the "research."  And these folks are PhD "research scientists" and it gets published as a review on the topic of vibration in a "peer-reviewed" journal.

John T. Weatherly

The platforms obviously make a huge difference.  I just saw a study by Elmantaser et al. published in the Sept 2012 J. Musculoskelet Neuronal Interact that was 16 weeks long and used men with an average of 33 years of age as subjects.  The study looked at Galileo vs Juvent and the Galileo group showed significant increases in GH, decreases in cortisol and bone resorption.  This is one of the very few studies I have seen comparing platforms directly.

John T. Weatherly
 

I put up this vid  2 years ago.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpBDfPno7fc&list=UUdr50aEfipyQmlfzBouM7jg&index=12&feature=plcp

Lots of visits from engineers and my competition, but so far nothing .

How am I to release my new machines, if no one has copied my old ones yet. 

In regard to testing machines, it is amazing how all these studies were published in "peer-reviewed" journals prior to the International Society of Musculosketal and Neuronal Interactions making their recommendations for vibration research in 2010.  I have corresponded with Lloyd for several years now and these recommendations are basically what he has been saying the whole time.  To show you how smart some of these scientists are they did not even test platforms to see if the platforms operated accurately under loaded conditions prior to conducting research that was published in "peer-reviewed" journals.  Just junk science is all many of these studies have been.  Just curious how you can have "peer-review" on something new.  If it is very new there cannot be many "experts" for the "peer-review" process to get published in scientific journals.  In this instance, the "peer-review" process is an oxymoron.

John T. Weatherly

Thanks Lloyd. Glad I got the Google Advisory warning that would not let me onto the site. The risk was small as it said the site had not transfered any trojan code but still, someone had tried to hijack it. Maybe it was unrelated to the work we do but it shows we are a top website, popular. 

Thanks to the IVTRB for providing this website and all the articles and this forum free of charge or any payment or commitment from anyone who reads it and uses the information. Im proud to share in contributing to this forum. I know it and the artickles have helped many people and saved others from buying the wrong machine for their needs or being ripped off by a lying marketer.

Hi Loyd,

I have a client whom has a burst blood vessel in her eye. Half of her eye is red dense blood. I sent her home today without doing her workout. I informed her I will get back to her as to when would be suitable to come back. Thank you for your time and knowledge Loyd.

From Kate. Bodygreen Vibration Training.

                    Mount Maunganui.

Cindy,

Where did you find a Nitrofit Deluxe being sold that cheaply.  Was it used or refurbished.  Our policy gives you a 30 day money back gaurantee on any of our machines.  We as a manufacturer only offer two years parts and labor.  A lifetime warranty sounds a bit sketchy to me.  Contact infowholebodyvibration.net and refference this blog site.  I will be happy to send you to a store with floor models.  Vibeplate and Nitrofit are completely diffrent types of machines . In other words vertical versus pivotal. I highly suggest that you try out both technologies.  When it comes to buying a machine, you need to figure out what feels right to your body, your budget and your lifestyle.  Another thing you need to be is realistic about your goals.  I just had to explain to a 300lb person afraid of buyers remorse that he needs to be realistic about his expectations.  He tried a Powerplate at a gym and probably was told that it would help him lose weight quickly.  I told him that you are only as good as your commitment to your exercise regimen.  If you plan to use it lightly for a week and expect results then save your money.  It probably took years to gain all that weight.  It will definitely take some time to lose it. Vibration machine or not, stick to a workout regimen, eat healthy and results will follow.

It’s been pointed out that my last post only has one good result of using Vibra-Train machines for four years - three of which I have been the Instructor.

Not correct! - this older couple have BOTH kept good weight only varying by a few Kg - her 1 Kg more, him about 3Kg more after 2 1/2 years. Their muscle mass and muscle quality have both remained really, really good. Remember they are older people, she in 70’s, he’s late 60’s. She has maintained in every way which equals a reasonable gain for a younger person as she is working against increasing age and the “normal” decline in muscle strength. She’s proving its not so “normal” and can be held back if you work with your body using good nutrition and a great program of resistance exercise = Vibra-Train. No cardio being done.

Her husband has a greater than “average” fat percentage both at 2 1/2 years ago and more so now, more than what is really good for him. He has excellent muscle mass and quality. He’s kept strong = a good result 

BUT as I said, you can’t out-train a bad habit like eating too many chocolate cookies. I’m proud to be his instructor, but he must address his continued (and worsened) desire for cakes and cookies in excess quantities. I can’t let him do more Vibra-Train, that will not help - in fact it could cause him to become hungrier and it could break down muscle. That’s called OverTraining. 

His wife is onto him - so unless he takes to hiding the cookies in his “Man Cave” (Car Garage) he’s going to be making small, positive changes. 

This is honest result reporting.

More Excellent Results from Vibration Training using High-Energy Lineal Machines

An older couple have been coming to Vibra-Train for over four years.  The past 3 years they’ve been coming to Auckland City studio twice a week regularly and I’ve trained them and watched their progress.

They both follow the standard IVTRB Program (http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/lineal-program) and both work-out hard, holding all the positions perfectly, correcting if necessary.  Have a great attitude - they shame some of my younger customers. Their diet is great and they have an avid interest in health and fitness.

They both did a Body Composition Analysis (BCA) test 2 ½ years ago in February, 2010 and only recently did a follow-up test, August, 2012.

The lady, now aged 72 ½ (70 at previous) test has maintained all her test results.  Her weight at age 70 was 55.7Kg and now at age 72 ½ is 56.5Kg. Her Bone, Muscle, and Fat amounts and percentage of body weight have remained constant. Her muscle quality is proportionate and normal and her wellness score is 78/100 – where 80 is considered to be very, very good,(my own score is less).

Maintaining results at her age is equivalent to a younger person making huge gains. I’m very happy for her.

The man is a little younger. His latest Body Comp results show a higher than “average” fat score. It was up a little last time and this time it’s higher. His muscle mass and other results have remained very good.  The reason for the increase in body fat??? – his wife tells me he has developed a strong addiction to chocolate biscuits.  You can’t out-train bad eating habits.

Lloyd Shaw:

WARM-UP, BASIC SQUAT, SEATED ABDOMINAL THERAPY.

And lying across his back on the vibration platform.

Safety program on 2012. Olympic games in London

As official physiotherapist of our national sailing team for many years now, I understand that recovery after competition is a crucial point on great sport events such as Olympic games. For that matter, in colaboration between National Sailing federation, Bodyshaker, and myself  it was agreed  to have pro unit for vibration training in Olympic village in Waymouth (where Olympic regatta took place).
The idea was simple. During first part of recovery, immediately after sailing, introduce vibration to athlete in order to decrease muscle tension, speed up rehidration, and overall recovery. Intervention lasted for 5-7 minutes, and it was modified safety program.
To call it successful introduction would be underestimation.
Muscle soreness? No problem. Just 5 minutes of vibration, and it is almost gone.
Fatigue? Seven minutes of vibration, and it is significantly decreased.
Tendon tension? Also not a problem. It needed just 5 minutes of vibration to be completely resolved.
Quick stretching?  Pain relieve, especially for the knees and lower back region, as a result of overuse? I've done it all with vibration during past four weeks.

All sports physios know that time is crucial part of overall equation for pro athletes treatment during competition. All those effects from vibration I can achieve with other interventions, such as massage, manipulations, physiotherapy in general, passive stretching, mobilization techniques, warm, or cold baths... But every one of them is time consuming for the athlete, thus interfering with natural recovery processes, or it induce a new physical stress to a body, or it is extremely unpleasant (ice baths, for example). To have simple and quick solution is a great advantage, and this time we had that.

 

Thank you for your answers!
Di Heap:
Obviously DKN XG10 buy me early.
Lloyd Shaw:
Thank you for your site.
I have 2 Chinese vibration plat
1. Body Sculpture BM1500 - Pivotal
2. PVB1000 - wooden - lineal
Do in 1 minute on each platform three exercises:
Stand, sit, squat
In addition PVB1000 lay back.
The total does not exceed 7 minutes.
Exercise three times a week.
(To be honest, and 5 minutes is a lot to me)
The next day, sore back muscles, thighs, calves.
I make almost 2 months.
I want to start to remove the muscle pain.
Thanks for any advice!

Thank you for responding to my post.  I would love to hear from Lloyd.  I have a chance to get a close to wholesale price on Vital Step.  Obviously if it is not a good machine than even good deals are bad.  I am interested in pivotal machine because I have nerve damage due a 13 year old fusion at L5 S1 and the 5 other surgeries that that one surgery caused.  I have weak abductors so I was thinking sideways motion would be beneficial.

I have been a Feldenkrais teacher for over 13 years. I know some of the neuroscientific studies around vibration and pain.  I have read a bit about the effect that attending to balance can have on ingrained habit patterns.  

I heard about Vibrational training a few years ago way before there were inexpernsive models under 2000. I am including the website that shows the machine.  I have not been able to visually identify it among the many that you rate. I have found a picture at www.stressstopinc.  You would have to search the site for Vitality Step.  For some reason I cannot enter any slashes or other such punctuation commonly found in web addresses.

I need to know by Tuesday am, PDT, USA.  I am suspicious because I never can find the actual manufacturer info. I only find distributor sites.  I would be so appreciative if Lloyd did have a chance to get back to me.  This site is so informative.  

I am 62 years old, still rock climbing and hiking.  Have knee replacement and 6 back surgeries.  I am trying to improve strength and flexibility in my knees.  I do have chronic pain.  This is actually one of the habits I hope to addres using the machine to challenge balance.  I need lateral strength as well as just flexors and extensors

Leonid

Read the machine reviews here:

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews

The DKN Machines have a lineal (upright) vibration,  very different from the BM1500 Pivotal machine you are using now.

If you have a sore body from using the Body Sculpture BM1500 machine I suggest you wait longer before buying a DKN lineal machine.

You can follow the IVTRB Safety Program here: Click on Pivotal for your machine

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/lineal-and-pivotal-safety-programs

Barbara

I haven’t heard of Vital Step pivotal machine (Lloyd might answer you later).

You can look up the machine reviews here and compare it to one of the pictures to see what type of machine it is

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews