Hi I too like Debbie have been training in Muay Thai. I stopped competing a couple of years ago due to work and family committments. In the past I have trained to international level. I am a former NZ champion. Since stopping my kickboxing and gym training I started to fell quite tired and lethargic. I found it hard to get the motivation to go to the gym or do other exercise that I use to love to do.  I went with Debbie to vibratrain and liked it as there is no excuse for not doing10mins exercise. I was concerned about my lack of fitness and not wanting to exercise. With vibratraining I have started to feel healthier and gain some strength to even do the odd kickboxing class again. With a busy lifestyle and working all day with special needs kids it is a good way to get stronger fitter and healthier a bit quicker without having to spend hours at the gym. It seems to help rehabilitate old injuries too. I would strongly recommend trying vibratrain. 

Wonderful to hear how VibraTrain has helped Debbie Malam after serious injuries.  The time efficiency, as she mentioned in her post, is important for many as it will help with adherence.

John T. Weatherly

As a Vibra-Train studio owner I am very disappointed to say the least to hear that a well known celebrity and former professional athlete Monty Betham  is actively criticising Lloyd Shaws work to help fight obesity and other health problems in New Zealand. I have been involved with Lloyd Shaw for over 8 years, in that time i have been astounded at his drive, persistence and dedication to giving up his time and money to achieve this. Much of the work he does in this area is done for free, and I cannot understand why anyone who truly has the health and welfare of other people at heart would do this? Surely the end result is the most important thing here? I can only question Monty Bentham’s real motivation if this is true.  

Vibratrain Supporter...

I am new to Vibratrain, have been doing Vibratrain now for the last two months.  I come from a strong Muay Thai,Thai Boxing background, having concentrated on the fitness side of the sport as well as the competition for well into 20 years now.

A few years ago, I sufferred a serious injury, breaking my leg, ankle and foot, which meant having to go through 3 surgeries, having 11 screws, two rods and one plate put into my leg ankle and foot  to stabilise it.  This meant I lost 40 percent flexibility and lost basic movement.   

As a result of lack of exercise, poor diet and injury, I plonked on a lot of weight, and my tone quickly faded.  

Since doing Vibratrain for this short period of time, I have gained back flexability, strength and tone... I have lost 4kg without much effort at all..... my ankle does not ache or swell and I am noticing my body shape change.  

I could easily find an excuse not to go to the gym and workout for an hour, or an hour and a half.. but there is no excuse for not having time to participate in a 10 minute or 12minute workout on the Vibratrain machine.

If there is a skeptic out there, I would recommend trying Vibratrain before making a judgement on it....  Results are what matters, if i had the choice to take up working out in a gym for an hour to an hour and a half every second day, and Vibratrain....   Vibratrain would win HANDS DOWN.....  I highly recommend for all to give it a go.  

Lloyd I want to thank you for your advice regarding the vibration machines.  I live in the States about 100 miles from Philadelphia.  Upon your recommendation, I purchased a Nitrofit Deluxe for my clinic.  It has been in service now for 21 months with no problems.  I know there even have been a few instances that my staff has put patients on it that exceed the weight limit.

I also bought a BodyShaker Pro and have it in service for 15 months.  The BodyShaker arrived with a damaged adjustable foot.  Martin replaced the part at no charge.  About a year into use, the rubber isolators were also bottoming out.  I think mainly because I put a patient on it that exceeded the weight limit, way over the weight limit.  He just found out that he is over 500 pounds.  Nonetheless, Martin also sent me a replacement set of rubber isolators at no charge.  In my view, BodyShaker far surpassed my expectations of standing by their product.

After about 1 year of working out on the machines I was tested on a high-end body composition analyzer, I had 15% more muscle mass than average for my sex, weight, and age.

The two machines have been a very useful adjuct to my chiropractic practice.

I would also like to thank Philippa Church for her guidance she has given me before I purchased the BodyShaker.

I would definitely recommend these two products.

To clarify the post below:  A few nuts is NOT a meal

Reminder to Instructors – If you are training people on High Energy Lineal Machines, such as Vibra-Train and BodyShaker, it is essential – Rule Number 1 – that your clients eat before they train.

Note:  Eat means – a complete meal around an hour before the session OR foods that rapidly raise the blood sugar such as a banana, even a few squares of chocolate just before training.

Ask  your clients “what did you eat?”  – not  “have you had something to eat?”

Refusal to eat adequately = no training session.  Be very strict on this.

At Vibra-Train studios you will be praised, never reprimanded, if you send a customer away because they haven’t eaten.  Many studios have cafes nearby so it’s the customer’s choice to get some food and come back later, or not.

Not eating before training can mean a client becomes hypoglycaemic during or after the session.  This can mean just a little lightheaded and needing rest, some people totally pass out and this happens without warning.  Also consider that many people jump into their car and head off to work or home immediately after their session; if their blood sugar is still dropping they could suddenly feel very unwell.

Even after eating well some people feel a little dizzy during or after training; especially after their first session which can be a lot more intense than expected.   Keep some glucose sweets or barley sugars behind the front desk and offer these. They are also useful during the session for people who have felt unwell previously or whom you believe have not eaten adequately.

Lloyd,

Is it ok if I do vibration training workout 4 or 5 days straight and then rest 2 or 3 days straight?

Thank you in advance.

Probably around 5 years ago now I was speaking on the phone with a professor at the U of Oklahoma who had sent me a review article on vibration studies.  I thanked the professor for emailing me the article but then told him the article did not differentiate between the different platforms used in the studies.  The professor said "so the type of plaform or vibration device could influence the results."  He agreed with me but it was the way he said it that made it almost "laughable" to me.  Just think - these "expert researchers" in their "peer-reviewed" review article grouped all the studies together - no matter which or what type of platform was used.  It is just bizarre.  And besides that many of the studies included in the "review article" did not even test the platforms to see if they performed as advertised under loads before doing the "research."  And these folks are PhD "research scientists" and it gets published as a review on the topic of vibration in a "peer-reviewed" journal.

John T. Weatherly

The platforms obviously make a huge difference.  I just saw a study by Elmantaser et al. published in the Sept 2012 J. Musculoskelet Neuronal Interact that was 16 weeks long and used men with an average of 33 years of age as subjects.  The study looked at Galileo vs Juvent and the Galileo group showed significant increases in GH, decreases in cortisol and bone resorption.  This is one of the very few studies I have seen comparing platforms directly.

John T. Weatherly
 

I put up this vid  2 years ago.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpBDfPno7fc&list=UUdr50aEfipyQmlfzBouM7jg&index=12&feature=plcp

Lots of visits from engineers and my competition, but so far nothing .

How am I to release my new machines, if no one has copied my old ones yet. 

In regard to testing machines, it is amazing how all these studies were published in "peer-reviewed" journals prior to the International Society of Musculosketal and Neuronal Interactions making their recommendations for vibration research in 2010.  I have corresponded with Lloyd for several years now and these recommendations are basically what he has been saying the whole time.  To show you how smart some of these scientists are they did not even test platforms to see if the platforms operated accurately under loaded conditions prior to conducting research that was published in "peer-reviewed" journals.  Just junk science is all many of these studies have been.  Just curious how you can have "peer-review" on something new.  If it is very new there cannot be many "experts" for the "peer-review" process to get published in scientific journals.  In this instance, the "peer-review" process is an oxymoron.

John T. Weatherly

Thanks Lloyd. Glad I got the Google Advisory warning that would not let me onto the site. The risk was small as it said the site had not transfered any trojan code but still, someone had tried to hijack it. Maybe it was unrelated to the work we do but it shows we are a top website, popular. 

Thanks to the IVTRB for providing this website and all the articles and this forum free of charge or any payment or commitment from anyone who reads it and uses the information. Im proud to share in contributing to this forum. I know it and the artickles have helped many people and saved others from buying the wrong machine for their needs or being ripped off by a lying marketer.

Hi Loyd,

I have a client whom has a burst blood vessel in her eye. Half of her eye is red dense blood. I sent her home today without doing her workout. I informed her I will get back to her as to when would be suitable to come back. Thank you for your time and knowledge Loyd.

From Kate. Bodygreen Vibration Training.

                    Mount Maunganui.

Cindy,

Where did you find a Nitrofit Deluxe being sold that cheaply.  Was it used or refurbished.  Our policy gives you a 30 day money back gaurantee on any of our machines.  We as a manufacturer only offer two years parts and labor.  A lifetime warranty sounds a bit sketchy to me.  Contact infowholebodyvibration.net and refference this blog site.  I will be happy to send you to a store with floor models.  Vibeplate and Nitrofit are completely diffrent types of machines . In other words vertical versus pivotal. I highly suggest that you try out both technologies.  When it comes to buying a machine, you need to figure out what feels right to your body, your budget and your lifestyle.  Another thing you need to be is realistic about your goals.  I just had to explain to a 300lb person afraid of buyers remorse that he needs to be realistic about his expectations.  He tried a Powerplate at a gym and probably was told that it would help him lose weight quickly.  I told him that you are only as good as your commitment to your exercise regimen.  If you plan to use it lightly for a week and expect results then save your money.  It probably took years to gain all that weight.  It will definitely take some time to lose it. Vibration machine or not, stick to a workout regimen, eat healthy and results will follow.

It’s been pointed out that my last post only has one good result of using Vibra-Train machines for four years - three of which I have been the Instructor.

Not correct! - this older couple have BOTH kept good weight only varying by a few Kg - her 1 Kg more, him about 3Kg more after 2 1/2 years. Their muscle mass and muscle quality have both remained really, really good. Remember they are older people, she in 70’s, he’s late 60’s. She has maintained in every way which equals a reasonable gain for a younger person as she is working against increasing age and the “normal” decline in muscle strength. She’s proving its not so “normal” and can be held back if you work with your body using good nutrition and a great program of resistance exercise = Vibra-Train. No cardio being done.

Her husband has a greater than “average” fat percentage both at 2 1/2 years ago and more so now, more than what is really good for him. He has excellent muscle mass and quality. He’s kept strong = a good result 

BUT as I said, you can’t out-train a bad habit like eating too many chocolate cookies. I’m proud to be his instructor, but he must address his continued (and worsened) desire for cakes and cookies in excess quantities. I can’t let him do more Vibra-Train, that will not help - in fact it could cause him to become hungrier and it could break down muscle. That’s called OverTraining. 

His wife is onto him - so unless he takes to hiding the cookies in his “Man Cave” (Car Garage) he’s going to be making small, positive changes. 

This is honest result reporting.

More Excellent Results from Vibration Training using High-Energy Lineal Machines

An older couple have been coming to Vibra-Train for over four years.  The past 3 years they’ve been coming to Auckland City studio twice a week regularly and I’ve trained them and watched their progress.

They both follow the standard IVTRB Program (http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/lineal-program) and both work-out hard, holding all the positions perfectly, correcting if necessary.  Have a great attitude - they shame some of my younger customers. Their diet is great and they have an avid interest in health and fitness.

They both did a Body Composition Analysis (BCA) test 2 ½ years ago in February, 2010 and only recently did a follow-up test, August, 2012.

The lady, now aged 72 ½ (70 at previous) test has maintained all her test results.  Her weight at age 70 was 55.7Kg and now at age 72 ½ is 56.5Kg. Her Bone, Muscle, and Fat amounts and percentage of body weight have remained constant. Her muscle quality is proportionate and normal and her wellness score is 78/100 – where 80 is considered to be very, very good,(my own score is less).

Maintaining results at her age is equivalent to a younger person making huge gains. I’m very happy for her.

The man is a little younger. His latest Body Comp results show a higher than “average” fat score. It was up a little last time and this time it’s higher. His muscle mass and other results have remained very good.  The reason for the increase in body fat??? – his wife tells me he has developed a strong addiction to chocolate biscuits.  You can’t out-train bad eating habits.