Why do they do this. All about greed and reputation. It helps them scam more grant money to further their non useful careers. 

So many more will fail before too long.  

 

I have yet to meet anyone involved with Power Plate that is honest. That brand just seems to just attract scum.

Thank you to all our supporters who never compromised or sold out. One day everyone's work will be part of an industry to be proud of.

Elite Fitness NZ are advertising the new Hypervibe G17 machine.  No stock yet, due 2015.  And it’s $500 more expensive than the previous model; it’s being advertised in New Zealand at $ 3,495

 This is going to be very interesting – the new machine has a smaller platform than its predecessor (which is already restrictive for some poses) and despite all the glossy advertising, it’s going to be quite weak.  

 Hypervibe/Murray Seaton continually say that higher G-Force acceleration is the only way to create superior results yet the new machine

They simply don’t understand the “Force Equation” in relation to physiology.

 The truth is: “A vibration platform with greater mass applies more force to a user, than a vibration platform with less mass.”

In his article, “The Effect Of Platform Mass”  http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/12/927/ , Murray Seaton of Hypervibe  gets  Paul O’Brien, who he states has a PhD in theoretical physics, to comment on Lloyd Shaw’s “volley ball/medicine ball” explanation. 

 I’m saying the day will come when Paul O’Brien is going to be very embarrassed for commenting on something he clearly doesn’t understand – the way the human body responds to the mass of the platform and force produced. Theoretical Physics doesn’t explain the physiological effects of applied force (vibration exercise or therapy) on the musculoskeletal system or - what the article is written about – the science of how that works.  I’d love the opportunity to show Paul O’Brien the linear, high energy platforms I work with and see if he thinks his explanation stacks up once he’s done a training session.

What is even funnier, is he even quotes me directly in that article. So he can then dismantle the theory ...
 

“I throw the volleyball to you and you catch it. Sounds simple enough, but we all know from experience this is not hard work, for either of us. If I throw it to you 100 times you might start feeling it, but in no way would you describe this as a “workout”. So how do I challenge your body and make it work harder. Extending the distance between us will not change much, so we know Amplitude is not the key, and throwing it more just takes up time. The perfect scenario would be to make the workout harder but shorter, right ?.

The simple solution …… Change the ball to a medicine ball.

The increase in mass of the ball immediately increases your workload considerably, in each throw.”

Not exactly rocket science is it. And easy to actually test. But apparently beyond these "experts" comprehension.

So glad I am just a simple mortician.  

So Im surfing the net and an ad has attached itself to my personal searches probably using SEO.

http://au.hypervibe.com/benefits.php

"Hypervibe Whole Body Vibration Machine "

Buy this machines and these are the "Benefits"

Increased Muscle Power  Strength, Improved Circulation, Pre Sport Warm Up, Improved Bone Density, Increased Tone in Posture Muscles.."NOT DARING TO SAY THEY CAN BURN OFF FAT"............Of course by now Im yawning from the monotony of benefits no consumer will respond to, thinking if the wealthy western world suffers from Obesity, Im in Australia, we are the most obese country in the world per capita. Where is the benefit of burning fat ...

So I think to myself, wow in my actual studio in 4 weeks, my first actual customer Kylie has lost 6 kgs on my actual NZ VibraTrain machine, shes posted actual results on our Facebook page and these actual machines are actually not for sale. 

I start to get all warm and fuzzy because I have invested in a business thats REAL.

Gym owners are starting to talk and worry here in Australia about FBV, their monopoly in the gym industry could shift like what digital cameras did to film cameras and probably more to the point VibraTrain that works without the talk, they will not get access to these machines we are not salemen.

We do not sell machines, we give results, instead we are REAL.....

Eye opening read , about academics who get their mates to do the peer review process for them and other cons.

http://retractionwatch.com/2014/11/26/the-peer-review-scam-how-authors-are-reviewing-their-own-papers/

They will never admit that the combination of dishonesty and stupidity has hurt this science more than almost anything else.   

This is the background from Murray Seaton and HyperVibe that has our attention.
 

  Good we all said...... but....

Note... I questioned this promise, with my scepticism coming from multiple issues surround honesty dating right from the launch of his company. A phone call to him raised more than a few alarms, so I openly stated he was full of BS.

His response....  

  By the end of 2009 HyperVibe failed to deliver the commercial unit for Gyms and WBV studios as promised.

Move forward to 14 / 05 / 2011.......  Machine as described as being near completion in 2009 still not released. Another promise of a "commercial " unit pops up on website claiming release late 2011. 

2011 came and went .......... nothing. 

2013 Murray Seaton says:

" The project is due to be completed next month, and then we go into production. No doubt there will be some time consumed in setting up production etc. so realistically we’ll be looking at the start of 2012 before you start to see them available" .

Then , again ......   nothing.

Please note: During this time Murray Seaton / Hypervibe got $144,750 from the taxpayer to finish his project. So I believe this is a public issue that should be discussed.

I hope that brings context to our interest.    

A new machine is about to be released 

HyperVibe Professional Whole Body Vibration Machine - 2015 Model G17 Pro

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/HyperVibe-Professional-Whole-Body-Vibration-Machine_50004216235.html

Looking at the specs. There is nothing special about this machine. Even the digital display is standard on lots of machines now. 

Specifications:

Frequency: 5-35Hz

Displacement: 7mm

Acceleration: 17.3g's

Platform size  53.5 cm  33.5  cm

Motor: 850W 

Apart from taking my old advice on Pivotal units, which is if you increase the Fq. Decrease the amplitude.( Which is an easy design modification ) . It seems pretty standard.

Eg........ Specs of their older unit below.

• G-force range: 0.8 - 17.4
• Frequency range: 6 - 28Hz
• Amplitude: 11mm (peak to peak)
• Platform size (cm): 56.5  X  36.5
• Powerful 900 Watt motor with current overload protection 

Am I missing something ?  If this is the super machine Murray Seaton has been promising the industry since 2009. What a serious let down.    

How are you using the machine. Just standing or doing a proper program ?

John, yes that type of machine helps with circulation.  It's a therapy machine. Also known as Crazyfit and many other names depending on whatever marketer is selling it, not specifically the SiTrek brand. Those machines - low speed pivotal massage, are  good for helping with circulation and very, very gentle stimulation of the lymphatic system, helps with mental relaxation too.

It is NOT a vibration training machine – which unfortunately most sellers try to say it is – lots of false advertising around that machine. The seller on NZ’s TradeMe auction site has banned me from commenting on his auctions – that promise what the machine simply cannot do and also list false machine specs.

Also that type of machine cannot take anyone over around 70Kg without loss of machine power – that is, it doesn’t work as well.

Know what you are buying and/or the machine you are training on: Machine Types and Reviews

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/machine-reviews

I welcome the opportunity, to make a comment about this Sitreck machine and where i think its greatest worth is.

Let me  first explane whats happened to me in the last three days.

On friday i got so bad with flued in my legs and feet that i tried hard te get in to see the Doctor, but know luck not until monday.

So with the usually discomfort one carries on, On saturday morning i happened to come across a garage sale and went in and spotted one of these machines for sale. So i thought, would it help my flued problem . Maybe. So i brought it. Got a trailer and took it home. It has worked perfectly. three six minute sessions saturday and sunday. Monday morning problem gone. I could hardly what i was seeing . This morning at 9  00 i have cancelled the Doctors appointment .

This is where i think one of its greatest uses is

This is usually the domain of marketers or salespeople with zero knowledge of Vibration Training / Physio. Fishing for simplistic advice so they can BS someone else into thinking they are an expert. As soon as we get specific .... we never hear from them again.    

Eg...... I have 6 different types of machines on the floor. It would depend on a number of factors, which one you would use to start with. And how you would use it.  

Hi Dave

Firstly 3D vibration is a marketing term used by companies that can’t control their machines correctly to provide pure lineal movement – so they make that out to be a good thing – I ask you??

You’ve given us no information at all to go on!

Do you or your client have access to a machine now and if so what type is it?

What stage is the person? What mobility does the person have currently? What current fitness level? Age, and weight and any other info –

Also where in the world are you, specifically? So we can suggest a therapist, studio or a machine type for home use.
 NOTE: It’s not just the type of machine, there’s also how to use it!!

What is the best type of vibration machine for treating ms.  Lineal , 3d or. Pivotal

As Di Heap suggested, read both these carefully first . It will help you not only get what you actually need. But not get ripped off .....

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/machine-reviews

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/articles-61---70/no-such-thing-as-a-bad-machine

There are several machines that have that name.. take a look at Machine Reviews to find a picture of a similar one  (doesn’t have to have the same Brand Name on the machine). These also come as small machines without handlebars.

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/consumer-guide-and-safety-program/machine-reviews

Sounds like it’s a Low Speed Pivotal – is that what you want? 

Can you give me an opinion on the Power Step Plus machine. I can't find it in your lists. Thank you

Vibration Training and Obesity  What's the real deal? ( published 25/12/2005 )

Vibration Training  eh? Sound like an infomercial on steroids doesn’t it, a get rich quick scheme for those who missed out on the Pilates rush. Well you are kinda right , there are plenty of folks who now think this may be their meal ticket. The kind of people who didn’t even know this existed a year ago. But now claim it’s a miracle cure for just about everything and they are ALL experts. Fantastic .Makes you want to run out and jump onto anything that vibrates  . But unfortunately its not that simple, or I would be advising everyone to go stand on their lawn mower.

The truth is Vibra- Train was launched in New Zealand by myself, but not to make a quick buck. I am a mortician by trade and was alarmed at the increasing rate of morbid obesity and type2 diabetes. And instead of sitting around and whinging about it, decided to actually do something. And that something was Vibration Training.

Now morbid obesity is a hard one to tackle, everyone keeps telling them the same thing, go on a diet, exercise more, go on a diet, did I mention exercise more?

Well call me stupid BUT ITS NOT WORKING. We have more professional nutritionists, more diet books, more gyms and more home exercise tools than ever in the history of man. But a higher obesity rate? Now I may just be a mortician but the message is definitely being lost in translation or I wouldn’t be writing this column. What most of the “experts” were failing to do was really put themselves in an overweight persons shoes. What is it like when you feel your weight has already gone too far and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. And also failing to understand, that people only take advice and act on it when they are feeling confident about themselves.

I saw Vibration Training as a way for people to exercise in a new way that they had no preconceptions about. What I mean is this, when you mention “diet” to most people it usually means “go without”. It has a negative connotation attached to it before you even finish the advice. When you mention exercise to someone who hasn’t done it in years, automatically images of puffing and wheezing your way through a workout or even a walk come to mind. And that’s not even mentioning the embarrassment factor. And you don’t have to be obese to feel like this. As we get older everything seems more like an effort. And no one wants to look as though they are dying right? But with Vibration Training we get around all that and do something completely different, that is also more effective. .

The thing about all the above exercise formats is that they use voluntary movement to burn off energy. Is there another way? You bet there is. Its not new and when I finish explaining it to you, you will wonder why it hasn’t been done before. It goes like this, a voluntary reflex is what we use to walk, jump, run etc. During this movement you use about 40% of your muscle cells. You think about it and you move, simple right? But think about this, when someone pushes you, you automatically push back to stop yourself from falling over. How does that happen? As with most things that are normal, we seldom look at it closely. Its called an “Involuntary Stretch Reflex” and its what we use to balance. Our body has an automatic response built into it to try and equal the force being pushed against it ( an eccentric contraction ) . The important thing to note here is your body will recruit approx 100% of you muscle cells during this moment, no expense is spared to stop yourself from falling over. And your muscles are also able to move a lot quicker in this response mode than you ever though possible.

Now the good thing about involuntary responses is firstly, they are involuntary, you don’t have to try. And the second is they are always intact no matter how out of shape you are. So to recap, it happens without me having to try and I am already fit enough to do it? What’s the catch you ask, well its kind of hard in its own way..

But here’s for the good news, the more out of shape you are, the faster the results. Again its exactly the opposite than most training methods we are taught. Now you are wondering around about now, if this is so good, why have I not heard of it before. Simple, lack of education. Involuntary reflexes and Vibration Training is not part of any curriculum in any University, anywhere. So I had to spend 3yrs chasing up this knowledge myself before we opened. I also build machines for athletes and people who are in wheelchairs. So you are not just dealing with one of those people who are jumping on this bandwagon to make a quick buck, If you come into Vibra-Train you will be dealing with the people who brought it here. You will be put on a machine of the best quality . You will be doing a program I designed. And you won’t regret it. Remember I am a mortician, I deal in absolutes, you are either dead or alive. There is no “results may vary” in my vocabulary. If you come to my studios, you do as you are told, you will get results.

And I promise I wont give you any diets or life-style advice. , you already have that in droves . But you watch what happens when you start looking and feeling better. Maybe , just maybe it makes changing those things a bit easier.

Important point about posting a question here.....   Best to type it out in something like email. Then copy / paste. As this forum makes it harder for hackers by taking away some character options. Bit naff but must be done.

Secondly , and more importantly. None of the company leaders actually ran commercial operations. Thousands of customers and all their limitation to deal with.

 I have no idea how you are meant to build a better machine unless you know what its limitations are.

DI-its good to see you’re trying to help people in your community with your “Some Good News Reporting” story.  Pivotal vibration was always going to be limited….I could not imagine a 200kg Pivotal commercial machine.

I’ve looked at a study of the bio-density machine some time ago and it seems to work well for improving bone density, then they use the PowerPlate  -- just for circulation and balance

--- are they saying that’s all the PowerPlate is good for?

WE ARE SPOILT here in New Zealand (some other countries also) – WE GET THOSE RESULTS from One Machine – the Vibra-Train (a pure lineal platform with attached vibrating handlebars, allowing a balanced, handlebar assisted squat, putting the pressure into both the lower and upper body at the same time)

Pure Vibration Training on the Vibra-Train increases bone density, improves circulation, balance – and so much more.

People who start off with a Therapy Program mostly progress to the full Standard Safety Training Program and gain all the benefits of real muscle strength as well.

It’s good the people in Reno have those tools but they are so behind compared with what we can do…     and like Lloyd says $50 a session?

This is just preposterous and I am glad you are exposing it.  Sadly, the NSCA has had Power Plate as a sponsor or partner.  I just do not understand, and the NSCA has been informed of repeated unethical behavior of Power Plate over a number of years, how organizaitons like the NSCA can associate themselves with this type of half truth unscientific marketing propoganda.

John T. Weatherly

This is typical Power Plate behavior.  Go into a new area, charge like a wounded bull. Get people to fluff around on the machines. Then when people wise up. close and move to a new area.