Do you know anything about the Vital Step  I believe it is a pivotal machine

It would be nice to be able to do a "search" in your comment section.  This would help look up an answer to a question, especially one about a specific brand or machine.

Me again.  Correction on that price.  I had a bad feeling the guy quoted me on the personal model vs the deluxe even though I I was very clear what I wanted.  Yep, I was right to think "too good to be true" the price is really USD1,820.

Hi Lloyd,

Thanks again for the advise.  I found a nitrofit deluxe for USD994 with a lifetime warranty on the parts.  The company is located within 100 miles of me but does not have a showroom so I can not try it out first.  They have a two week return and six month exchange.  Would this be a good choice.  Thanks.

Low Energy / Low Amplitude Lineal

These units have no real amplitude and are basically stable platforms that can be used for everything from Osteoporosis treatment, weight lifting to Pilates/Yoga type movements. They will range in size from a bathroom scale to the size of a small bed. Usually low profile and almost silent due to small motors needed to drive such a device (smaller than a coke can). Some medical devices fit into this category so they may be more expensive due to controlled electronics, but usually are cheap to build.

Hi Lloyd,

Thank you for such a quick reply.  When I look at your machine review page I could not tell what machines, by brand, fall under each category, and none of the pictures seemed close enough to the vibeplate.  And of course the specs they provide make it seem better than it in reality it apparently is.  Thanks for this advise, I will take it.  Can you tell me your opinion what is the best to buy in this price range in the USA, i.e. approx USD2,000

Thanks again.

Hi Lloyd,

I found your website to be the best place to gain information on vibration training and machines.  Many other sites have passed along links to yours.  I am just an end user looking for a machine to combat bone density issues from aging, as this runs in my family.  I live in Southern California, USA, am a complete newbie, and was wondering if you have an opinion on the brand VibePlate.  Any input would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for your time.

Vibra-Train Auckland City and Vibra-Train Howick (and many of our other studios) have recently run deals on a “daily deal” website – the sort where you pay about 1/3 of the price if you buy on that website, on the day the deal is active.

Here are some of the comments that newbies have posted onto the deal website:

·         Totally different experience and it’s harder that I thought but I love it!

·         Staff is friendly and corrects your poses precisely to make sure clients get the most benefits.

·         Fantastic! Glennis is encouraging, patient and positive.

·         Good Trainers. Good Support.

·         I told all my friends and now they want to go. Please do another deal.

·         ..... was an excellent trainer and very knowledgeable.

·         Awesome. Only 10 mins long, it’s supervised and I feel it in my quads.

·         The best exercise ever. 15 mins and you feel like you’ve done an hour in the gym, full body workout. Highly recommend it.

These comments were never asked for by us. They were on the merchant site when I marked off the vouchers.

It says a lot really – we are very strict about poses being held correctly for the time duration. We don’t tolerate laziness or people moaning that it’s too hard – we just get on with it and encourage/insist they complete the full safety program.  Hard Work = Great Results.

Thats a fine article and I will look forward to the follow-up article.  One thing that I do not believe universities in the U.S. and organizations such as the NSCA do is provide students factual data and realistic information about jobs in the field and the job market.  You have all these schools that all need students.  What they fail to tell people is there are not many good jobs in the exercise field.  As you stated, many who do work in the field may "wise-up" and get a real job about the time they get married and want to own a home.  There are not many "good jobs" in the exercise field.  I would like to see data from universities and organizations such as the NSCA on how many students who obtained degrees in exercise science or so-called sport science are actually working in the field and making a decent living.   They do not seem to like to share this type of data.

John T. Weatherly

Shannon

Think about it. Do you believe what they say on the website.  Do you believe a small machine like that oscillates up to 30Hz when Premier Speed Pivotal Workout Machines like the two in the article I linked to, deliberately have top speeds of 22Hz and 28Hz.

And If it could go to 30Hz how does that cause your muscles to contract at 50Hz, add in also that one foot is up when the other is down, side to side movement.

Then think about whats happening when when you simply stand on the machine. Theres rebalancing going on, it gets the blood moving too BUT theres minimal exercise involved. True Vibration Training is NOT simply standing on tiny seesaw motion machine. Read the link  below , NO  SUCH THING AS A BAD MACHINE and read my article, linked a few posts below.

wondering if anyone has experience with this machine www.whole hyphen bodyvibration.net

would you recommend it

I work in a specialised Vibration Training Studio where we provide fully supervised Workouts and Therapy sessions BUT what if you prefer to buy a machine to use at home or in your office?  - There are two I recommend – both are pivotal platforms.  They are both also suitable for small gyms (or Personal Trainer studios) and for larger Vibration Training Studios that have a mix of Lineal and Pivotal machines.

Two High Speed Pivotal Vibration Machines recommended for Home Users

http://www.vibeplus.com/?p=2855

I am 57 and have just started looking at Vibration machines in the last month. Ihad no idea what Iwas getting myself into. SO many choices and so many decisions. I am a diabetic and mostly am looking for cirulation to start but also want to tone myself up. Just bought an eliptical machine and went from 240 to to 220 and my blood sugar is doing great.

I had narrowed it to either the Hypervibe going to 27Hz and the Vibratrim which is a spiral, each rep talks bad about the other only to confuse me. Can anyone tell me if they have a spiral type and why you choose that over say pivital, it would help he out considerable. I allways went to consumer.org before making any gym type equipment decision but they have not done anything on Vibration machines.

I first seen a machine at a home show a few months ago but the two machines Ive looked at on the web Ihave not been able to step on and get a hands on view in the St. Louis area.

Many Thanks

DK

Interesting article dealing with cheating, ethics, etc. and the Olympics by former USOC Heads of Sports Physiology and Biomechanics Drs. Mike Stone and Bill Sands at www.sportscienceed.com.  Kind of reminds me of the vibration area. It is also interesting that Sands will be joining Stone at ETSU.  In spite of many calling themselves "sports scientists" in the U.S., these "sports scientists" are few and far between.  ETSU is the ONLY university in the U.S. that I am aware of where scientists and students actually interact and work with athletes and coaches in the athletic department.  Yet, there are all these people at universities that like to call themselves "sports scientists" but do not do anything with athletes at their own universities.

John T. Weatherly

Murray,

Your comments on July 4 about researchers such as Lamont and Ronnestad publishing invalid data are right on and something Lloyd and I have discussed.  These researchers were so smart or lazy that they thought they could investigate different frequencies or amplitudes etc. but they FORGOT to test the platforms for reliability before doing the studies.  This really is inexcusable from "research scientists."  I have mentioned this many times to Dr. William Kraemer and colleagues.  Dr. Kraemer is editor in chief of JSCR.  He always used to answer my emails or return calls but I have not heard a peep out of Kraemer et al. on this issue.  In fact, several years ago I sent Dr. Kraemer an email and he answered right away saying one of his students had validated a certain vibration modality for warmup,  In parenthesis Dr. Kraemer said "I think."  So, Dr. Kraemer was not sure himself at that time which was several years ago.  Yet, this stuff gets published in "peer-reviewed" journals.  And now, none of the scientists will be accountable and say we screwed up by publishing these invalid studies.  This is just bizarre.

John T. Weatherly

Lloyd,

I am following your pivotal safe strength program. 

Thank you for the advice and info. It really helped a lot.