It’s been pointed out that my last post only has one good result of using Vibra-Train machines for four years - three of which I have been the Instructor.

Not correct! - this older couple have BOTH kept good weight only varying by a few Kg - her 1 Kg more, him about 3Kg more after 2 1/2 years. Their muscle mass and muscle quality have both remained really, really good. Remember they are older people, she in 70’s, he’s late 60’s. She has maintained in every way which equals a reasonable gain for a younger person as she is working against increasing age and the “normal” decline in muscle strength. She’s proving its not so “normal” and can be held back if you work with your body using good nutrition and a great program of resistance exercise = Vibra-Train. No cardio being done.

Her husband has a greater than “average” fat percentage both at 2 1/2 years ago and more so now, more than what is really good for him. He has excellent muscle mass and quality. He’s kept strong = a good result 

BUT as I said, you can’t out-train a bad habit like eating too many chocolate cookies. I’m proud to be his instructor, but he must address his continued (and worsened) desire for cakes and cookies in excess quantities. I can’t let him do more Vibra-Train, that will not help - in fact it could cause him to become hungrier and it could break down muscle. That’s called OverTraining. 

His wife is onto him - so unless he takes to hiding the cookies in his “Man Cave” (Car Garage) he’s going to be making small, positive changes. 

This is honest result reporting.

More Excellent Results from Vibration Training using High-Energy Lineal Machines

An older couple have been coming to Vibra-Train for over four years.  The past 3 years they’ve been coming to Auckland City studio twice a week regularly and I’ve trained them and watched their progress.

They both follow the standard IVTRB Program (http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/lineal-program) and both work-out hard, holding all the positions perfectly, correcting if necessary.  Have a great attitude - they shame some of my younger customers. Their diet is great and they have an avid interest in health and fitness.

They both did a Body Composition Analysis (BCA) test 2 ½ years ago in February, 2010 and only recently did a follow-up test, August, 2012.

The lady, now aged 72 ½ (70 at previous) test has maintained all her test results.  Her weight at age 70 was 55.7Kg and now at age 72 ½ is 56.5Kg. Her Bone, Muscle, and Fat amounts and percentage of body weight have remained constant. Her muscle quality is proportionate and normal and her wellness score is 78/100 – where 80 is considered to be very, very good,(my own score is less).

Maintaining results at her age is equivalent to a younger person making huge gains. I’m very happy for her.

The man is a little younger. His latest Body Comp results show a higher than “average” fat score. It was up a little last time and this time it’s higher. His muscle mass and other results have remained very good.  The reason for the increase in body fat??? – his wife tells me he has developed a strong addiction to chocolate biscuits.  You can’t out-train bad eating habits.

Lloyd Shaw:

WARM-UP, BASIC SQUAT, SEATED ABDOMINAL THERAPY.

And lying across his back on the vibration platform.

Safety program on 2012. Olympic games in London

As official physiotherapist of our national sailing team for many years now, I understand that recovery after competition is a crucial point on great sport events such as Olympic games. For that matter, in colaboration between National Sailing federation, Bodyshaker, and myself  it was agreed  to have pro unit for vibration training in Olympic village in Waymouth (where Olympic regatta took place).
The idea was simple. During first part of recovery, immediately after sailing, introduce vibration to athlete in order to decrease muscle tension, speed up rehidration, and overall recovery. Intervention lasted for 5-7 minutes, and it was modified safety program.
To call it successful introduction would be underestimation.
Muscle soreness? No problem. Just 5 minutes of vibration, and it is almost gone.
Fatigue? Seven minutes of vibration, and it is significantly decreased.
Tendon tension? Also not a problem. It needed just 5 minutes of vibration to be completely resolved.
Quick stretching?  Pain relieve, especially for the knees and lower back region, as a result of overuse? I've done it all with vibration during past four weeks.

All sports physios know that time is crucial part of overall equation for pro athletes treatment during competition. All those effects from vibration I can achieve with other interventions, such as massage, manipulations, physiotherapy in general, passive stretching, mobilization techniques, warm, or cold baths... But every one of them is time consuming for the athlete, thus interfering with natural recovery processes, or it induce a new physical stress to a body, or it is extremely unpleasant (ice baths, for example). To have simple and quick solution is a great advantage, and this time we had that.

 

Thank you for your answers!
Di Heap:
Obviously DKN XG10 buy me early.
Lloyd Shaw:
Thank you for your site.
I have 2 Chinese vibration plat
1. Body Sculpture BM1500 - Pivotal
2. PVB1000 - wooden - lineal
Do in 1 minute on each platform three exercises:
Stand, sit, squat
In addition PVB1000 lay back.
The total does not exceed 7 minutes.
Exercise three times a week.
(To be honest, and 5 minutes is a lot to me)
The next day, sore back muscles, thighs, calves.
I make almost 2 months.
I want to start to remove the muscle pain.
Thanks for any advice!

Thank you for responding to my post.  I would love to hear from Lloyd.  I have a chance to get a close to wholesale price on Vital Step.  Obviously if it is not a good machine than even good deals are bad.  I am interested in pivotal machine because I have nerve damage due a 13 year old fusion at L5 S1 and the 5 other surgeries that that one surgery caused.  I have weak abductors so I was thinking sideways motion would be beneficial.

I have been a Feldenkrais teacher for over 13 years. I know some of the neuroscientific studies around vibration and pain.  I have read a bit about the effect that attending to balance can have on ingrained habit patterns.  

I heard about Vibrational training a few years ago way before there were inexpernsive models under 2000. I am including the website that shows the machine.  I have not been able to visually identify it among the many that you rate. I have found a picture at www.stressstopinc.  You would have to search the site for Vitality Step.  For some reason I cannot enter any slashes or other such punctuation commonly found in web addresses.

I need to know by Tuesday am, PDT, USA.  I am suspicious because I never can find the actual manufacturer info. I only find distributor sites.  I would be so appreciative if Lloyd did have a chance to get back to me.  This site is so informative.  

I am 62 years old, still rock climbing and hiking.  Have knee replacement and 6 back surgeries.  I am trying to improve strength and flexibility in my knees.  I do have chronic pain.  This is actually one of the habits I hope to addres using the machine to challenge balance.  I need lateral strength as well as just flexors and extensors

Leonid

Read the machine reviews here:

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews

The DKN Machines have a lineal (upright) vibration,  very different from the BM1500 Pivotal machine you are using now.

If you have a sore body from using the Body Sculpture BM1500 machine I suggest you wait longer before buying a DKN lineal machine.

You can follow the IVTRB Safety Program here: Click on Pivotal for your machine

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/lineal-and-pivotal-safety-programs

Barbara

I haven’t heard of Vital Step pivotal machine (Lloyd might answer you later).

You can look up the machine reviews here and compare it to one of the pictures to see what type of machine it is

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews

Hello!
I'm not a sports person. I am 50 years old. To engage in regular physical activity can not - tough. Already have a Body Sculpture BM1500. After a month of training was a huge relief - was able to return to work after two years of hiatus. After 3 minutes of Body Sculpture BM1500 sore body, the load enough (have been doing this month). On your advice I want to buy DKN XG10. The question is not whether it will be very strong for me? Maybe better to buy DKN XG5? Or stop until there is a change from training at the Body Sculpture BM1500?
Forgive me for my English, and Google.
Thank you!

Do you know anything about the Vital Step  I believe it is a pivotal machine

It would be nice to be able to do a "search" in your comment section.  This would help look up an answer to a question, especially one about a specific brand or machine.

Me again.  Correction on that price.  I had a bad feeling the guy quoted me on the personal model vs the deluxe even though I I was very clear what I wanted.  Yep, I was right to think "too good to be true" the price is really USD1,820.

Hi Lloyd,

Thanks again for the advise.  I found a nitrofit deluxe for USD994 with a lifetime warranty on the parts.  The company is located within 100 miles of me but does not have a showroom so I can not try it out first.  They have a two week return and six month exchange.  Would this be a good choice.  Thanks.

Low Energy / Low Amplitude Lineal

These units have no real amplitude and are basically stable platforms that can be used for everything from Osteoporosis treatment, weight lifting to Pilates/Yoga type movements. They will range in size from a bathroom scale to the size of a small bed. Usually low profile and almost silent due to small motors needed to drive such a device (smaller than a coke can). Some medical devices fit into this category so they may be more expensive due to controlled electronics, but usually are cheap to build.

Hi Lloyd,

Thank you for such a quick reply.  When I look at your machine review page I could not tell what machines, by brand, fall under each category, and none of the pictures seemed close enough to the vibeplate.  And of course the specs they provide make it seem better than it in reality it apparently is.  Thanks for this advise, I will take it.  Can you tell me your opinion what is the best to buy in this price range in the USA, i.e. approx USD2,000

Thanks again.

Hi Lloyd,

I found your website to be the best place to gain information on vibration training and machines.  Many other sites have passed along links to yours.  I am just an end user looking for a machine to combat bone density issues from aging, as this runs in my family.  I live in Southern California, USA, am a complete newbie, and was wondering if you have an opinion on the brand VibePlate.  Any input would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for your time.

Vibra-Train Auckland City and Vibra-Train Howick (and many of our other studios) have recently run deals on a “daily deal” website – the sort where you pay about 1/3 of the price if you buy on that website, on the day the deal is active.

Here are some of the comments that newbies have posted onto the deal website:

·         Totally different experience and it’s harder that I thought but I love it!

·         Staff is friendly and corrects your poses precisely to make sure clients get the most benefits.

·         Fantastic! Glennis is encouraging, patient and positive.

·         Good Trainers. Good Support.

·         I told all my friends and now they want to go. Please do another deal.

·         ..... was an excellent trainer and very knowledgeable.

·         Awesome. Only 10 mins long, it’s supervised and I feel it in my quads.

·         The best exercise ever. 15 mins and you feel like you’ve done an hour in the gym, full body workout. Highly recommend it.

These comments were never asked for by us. They were on the merchant site when I marked off the vouchers.

It says a lot really – we are very strict about poses being held correctly for the time duration. We don’t tolerate laziness or people moaning that it’s too hard – we just get on with it and encourage/insist they complete the full safety program.  Hard Work = Great Results.

Thats a fine article and I will look forward to the follow-up article.  One thing that I do not believe universities in the U.S. and organizations such as the NSCA do is provide students factual data and realistic information about jobs in the field and the job market.  You have all these schools that all need students.  What they fail to tell people is there are not many good jobs in the exercise field.  As you stated, many who do work in the field may "wise-up" and get a real job about the time they get married and want to own a home.  There are not many "good jobs" in the exercise field.  I would like to see data from universities and organizations such as the NSCA on how many students who obtained degrees in exercise science or so-called sport science are actually working in the field and making a decent living.   They do not seem to like to share this type of data.

John T. Weatherly

Shannon

Think about it. Do you believe what they say on the website.  Do you believe a small machine like that oscillates up to 30Hz when Premier Speed Pivotal Workout Machines like the two in the article I linked to, deliberately have top speeds of 22Hz and 28Hz.

And If it could go to 30Hz how does that cause your muscles to contract at 50Hz, add in also that one foot is up when the other is down, side to side movement.

Then think about whats happening when when you simply stand on the machine. Theres rebalancing going on, it gets the blood moving too BUT theres minimal exercise involved. True Vibration Training is NOT simply standing on tiny seesaw motion machine. Read the link  below , NO  SUCH THING AS A BAD MACHINE and read my article, linked a few posts below.