Mike and Di Heap

Thank you so much.....

Yes I am interested in muscle toning.  I am a somewhat crazy 58 year old man that likes a good workout.  Thank you Lloyd for the giudelines for a proper lineal workout   This is great information and I am glad you guys are out there trying to improve this entire industry  Much appreciated   indeed.

Mike do you mind telling me of the "one machine" that builds good quality muscle.....  Is it a dependable machine

My best to all

David

David

Based on experience (opening the first pivotal studio in the world), I would stick to lineal if it is muscle toning you are after. The

reason being is after about 6 months the body seems to plateau on a pivotal. If you want to do upper body work outs then

pivotal is more restricted. Just my personal opinion.

A high energy lineal should get harder as time goes on. As far as building muscle is concerned there is only one machine that I

have found that builds good quality Muscle, and no I don’t sell them but yes I do use one in my studio.

Also just my opinion...Oh and personal experience J Sorry for throwing the cat amongst the pigeons.

David

If you liked the intensity of muscle contraction using the small Hypergravity personal platform then the TrueVibe (U.K.) or the VibroGym Professional platforms would give an even better workout

But do a trial of a pivotal Nitrofit deluxe if you can – so you can feel the difference in the types of machines.  Even turned up to highest I personally don’t find pivotal machines give the strength of muscle contraction I’m used to  - some people prefer them though and get good training from them.

I may have figured out the twitter guy. Saw a page where it looked like there were a couple entries into that Wave giveaway contest, that just concluded. I think this was his entry. He didn't win.

Thank you all for the advice.

Lloyd,

The Hypergravity has only been in use for approx. 3 months in total.  I purchased it 2.5 years ago but it sat in a corner.... So it is essentially new.  As I mentioned I want to give this to unit to my father and try another machine and that is why I am writing.... Yes I do like the strong power of the Hypergravity unit  but have never used the Pivotal .  If they both seem to build muscle equally well then I may try pivotal ....

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Mike M 

I agree that the Wave twitter person sounds a bit unusual.  He says he has found the Holy Grail of exercise machines.    He goes on to say he is very busy and the Wave gives him an hour worth of gym in just ten minutes, but yet he still goes to the gym and injures himself there.  Hmmmmm .....

David my suggestion would be a vibrogym if you could get one. check out the link below

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vibrogym-Professional-/200615300851?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb59a8ef3

good work out, good history and made in the Netherlands.

I have been running 2 of them for the last 4 years and still use them beside our vibra train machine.

Mike ...

To answer your questions.

I purchased the Hypergravity Personal  2.5 years ago for my office staff.   I have just started using this machine a few months ago and have decided I really like WBV training and started researching. I am going to give this unit to my father and for me and my sons I will order another machine.  

So I am trying to figure out if I want a lineal or pivotal.  As I mentioned I have a   5,000 dollar budget and am interested in dependability.  My sons and myself all are in great shape and want to build health and muscle.

I hope this helps.

Reading again the article Mike M linked, about Hypervibe’s quivering exercise equipment and wondering about the “aptness appurtenance” that can “kindle the body in a accumulation of unique and profitable ways”

Well I am laughing out loud so much that customers are asking if I am okay.  Laughing is healthy but I’m afraid I’m going to have a sore stomach if I don’t stop soon.

David

Do you own the HyperGravity machine and if so why do you need to replace it?  

Without knowing more about you (do you or your boys have any health or fitness disabilities we need to know about?) - You need either a medium (or high) energy lineal machine OR a high-speed pivotal to give the sort of strength results you want.  I recommend you try out some machines before you buy using the list Mike M has put up.  Also, as you probably know, you need to consider where you will put the machine in your home. Have you read the articles – here’s one that might be helpful

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/your-home-machine-and-your-neighbours

@ David

You say you are using a hyper gravity machine...which one?

Do you own this or do you pay to use it at a studio somewhere?

How have you found the results?

How long have you been using it for?

I used to promote and distribute hyper gravity machines, but no longer do due to their brake down rate.

Well, like Lloyd said. That amount can get you the 2nd-nicest Wave, the Air Reflex, or the Contour Plus if you want to wait a bit. Or anything in the DKN range or the Nitrofit Deluxe. All are reliable and should give results.

Thank s to all who are helping me  Much appreciated

To help clarify,

My budget is 5,000 US dollars.  My boys are 17 and 27... I am 58 and want to keep muscle..... I am currently using a Hypergravity machine and I live in Texas, USA. 

Thank you again

Here's one for you, Lloyd. A hypervibe us link that, well, rather reads kind of funny.

http://yourslender.com/Fitness_Equipment/home-exercise-equipment-are-you-looking-for-the-best-in-vibration-training-join-hypervibes-training/

"Our quivering exercise machines", really?? "at a really in accord with price"? And what is "aptness appurtenance equipment"?

Congratulations, Patty. Maybe we can get a bit of a Wave group going here, I just wish someone else posting here had the Contour Plus. I understand the reason for the holdup with those is that the display has been redesigned and is being slow to be sent over. Wonder how it differs from the old one?

I did see a rather odd posting as I was searching for forums with Wave users. Here's a link. The guy actually says he has the Contour Plus. Tell me what you think. I may try to direct the author to this forum, if he's interested in posting over here...

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/a0cesp

Finally took a step of faith today and placed our order with Rochelle for the Air Reflex Machine.

Mike M, Rochelle did tell me that it could take up to 4 weeks to receive, but that more than likely it would arrive sooner, but no guarantees. She took the time to set up a call with Dr. Jasper Sidu for me so that I could ask a few questions regarding the use of the machine for my husband. He was very helpful and it made me feel good to know that he would be available for questions after we begin using the machine. This will be a journey for us and we plan to keep a log of my husband’s progress. Like you, I would like to see more sharing of info from Wave owner’s….-perhaps there is a way we can begin something in the U.S!

Lloyd…I did let Rochelle and Dr. Jasper know that I had been talking with you regarding the Wave and your recommendation. After your note about the ability to perform the safety program on the platform, we taped off the measurements of the Wave and the other two machines…and it was easy to see we needed the large footprint that the Wave offered. I think hubby will be able to maneuver much better on the Wave platform. The Wave is pricey, but hopefully the machine quality and air technology will prove to be a good investment. Side note…we already have friends / family lining up to use it!

Where in the US, what's your budget, have you already used any machine(s), how old are your kids?

(Just a few of the questions I might come up with; guess I'm just more nosy than Lloyd).

I emailed Lloyd asking him which WBV machine he thought would be good for me and he suggested I ask this question on the forum....

Well I am still not sure about which machine,  Lineal or pivotal,  would be best for me.  I am looking for dependability and a machine that would be good for me and my family.

Any suggestions

Lloyd, thanks so much for taking the time to give me your unbiased opinion.  I am relieved to hear I made an ok purchase with the k1.  I will let you know how it goes when its delivered.  Its so hard to tell whats true and what isnt regarding wbv machines...and nearly impossible to try them out before you purchase.   Thanks again

Jan

That is a real shame. Especially about the Wave section. Is there no chance that those posts are archived somewhere?