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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-07-04 00:05:33
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Resistance training program using compound exercise poses. Basis bench press , leg press, pull up etc.....
Then bring the muscles to complete fatigue using similar static poses. This is the program I used in the stage I was pushing weights and doing VT. I managed to put on 3 kg of muscle in s short time frame. Until I changed my experiment.
Sorry not much help past that.
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Nick |
Posted On:2012-07-03 23:41:38
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Hey Lloyd, just wondering how to best pair vibration training with traditional weight training in order to help gain and maintain lean muscle mass. I weight train 3 days a week, and would like to incorporate vibra train into my regime, but do not want overtrain... any thoughts would be much appreciated.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-07-03 18:11:04
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Every new Power Plate N.Z. owner tries to put some fresh energy into the brand. And they do Ok for a while. They put a lot of effort into keeping up appearances, as marketers do.
The only reason they get any sales is because I don't retail, which does not sit well with gym owners. I know I lose followers due to this and my strict programs. But I don't care, it is not my target market. They can have the "anything goes" players.
Note: Most of the Power Plate machines are second hand sales through Trade-Me. So essentially they are picking up locations, but not sales. For a retail based company. That really is just a slow death.
Combine that with companies like yours about to nip at their heels............. it is only a matter of time.
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Murray |
Posted On:2012-07-03 16:56:17
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Interesting.
What do you think about the reemergence of Power Plate in NZ? They seem to be building over your way again.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-07-03 16:45:29
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I think this is the statement that stands true to this day.....
According to the opinion of the Haarlem District Court......
"financial interests in this case are apparently so large that no means will be left untried and that even the most basic standards of decency may be violated,"
I think this sums up Power Plate, its supporters and managers perfectly. We squashed them in N.Z. and it needs to happen globally if our industry ever wants to mature and move forward past its bad history. Until them we all get tarred with the same brush.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-07-03 13:41:49
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Murray..
After that my understanding was Power Plate ran away using law-fare ( using the legal system and lawyers as a term of warfare against a person or another company ) until the other party is bankrupt.
I believe the franchise people lost everything, just like here in N.Z.
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Murray Seaton |
Posted On:2012-07-03 10:52:30
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Hi Willie,
It has been a long haul but after 4 prototypes, we are in the final testing and review phase, and then we can go to production. I dont want to put a time on the public release date, as Ive learned throughout this project that nothing goes according to schedule.
Regarding price, if you are asking as an interested home user, Im afraid it will be disappointing news. The machine is going to retail upwards of 10,000 USD, and will weigh more than 150Kg, designed for a commercial setting. Our next project will be to take the technology to a home use machine.
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willie nugent. |
Posted On:2012-07-03 05:51:49
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Hi Murray, when is your Galaxy machine coming out and how much will it cost.
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Murray Seaton |
Posted On:2012-07-02 23:44:52
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Hey Lloyd,
Im curious if you know what the result was on this one
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/former-franchise-owners-fight-back-147449.html
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John |
Posted On:2012-06-30 00:43:32
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This shows how "peer-reviewed" journals can publish fake research which is similar to the invalid studies on vibration that have been published in "peer-reviewed" journals. Google "Dr. Das UConn Scandal." This doctor and researcher on resveratrol faked and published data in journals and he was even an editor or associate editor of journals himself. He is an MD who was at the University of Connecticut. We cannot trust "peer-review" by itself. Some of these scientists are crooks too.
John T. Weatherly
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-06-27 14:56:33
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An old article but very relevant to some of the questions I am being asked via email lately.. A bit of knowledge can stop you being kicked out of your building so read it carefully before purchasing or placing a machine anywhere.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-06-21 18:16:42
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Who Power Plate owed money to when it collapsed in my country
Just a small % of the people who were ripped off.
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PhilippaChurch |
Posted On:2012-06-20 01:38:19
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Well done Martin and Dean, the new machine looks awesome. Great to see things going so well.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-06-15 12:02:56
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I see the gap between those of us who are driven to innovate, and those who would sit on old designs, widening very quickly .
Body Shaker, congratulations on moving forward. And well done Dean Mistura for having the guts to do the hard yards.
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Dean Mistura |
Posted On:2012-06-15 09:18:02
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New machine from Bodyshaker
As announced by Lloyd some time ago, one physio in collaboration with one major European company have been working on developing a machine that include vibration hand bars. And that is exactly what we were involved in for past, almost two years from initial idea until working commercial machine is produced. First pictures of it you can find on:
http://www.dobrevibracije.hr/#
Not to go in details, it is sufficient to say that all of us included in this project have had some serious headache and sleepless nights to report, that are probably integral part of any project such as this one. But, looking on end result, and seeing my customers exercising on it, all the effort is well worth it.
Also, a passion in people from Bodyshaker, their determination to improve existing design, and work with physio from some small country with crazy idea, is something that can not be bought. Thanks guys. Hope this investment of yours will prove to be excellent one.
The new design is allowing us more specific workout for our athletes, as well as easier exercising for sedentary patients. It also provide an opportunity to treat some of disorders of shoulder grid. I know that is something usual for you guys in NZ, since you have Vibra-train, but it is something completely new for all the rest of us.
In addition, We opened new, now third, vibration studio in our city. This one is integral part of my physiotherapy clinic, which means more patients will benefit from this technology.
As always, I have to thank you all here, for answering my questions,and being there for support. Especially thanks to you Lloyd. Without your help, none of this would be possible.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-06-14 22:24:20
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Very poor an Italian based company does not offer direct engineering support in France ? One of Europe's biggest economies. Unfortunately you are not alone....
Repost from 20/02/2011 regarding companies using the term "commercial " as a marketing tool........
The cost of reconditioning your large Power Plate Pro machine....
It has just come to light that it can cost $4000 per machine to replace all the wearable parts ( only replaced a few parts, nothing major like the motors ) . And this was not a hard worked unit by most studio standards. Anyone purchasing a machine should ask for a redeemable quote ( past the warranty date ) for all parts that might need replacing. And get it in writing, Power Plate are famous for reneging or even outright denying verbal deals. And get the quote from Power Plate head office, as in my country Power Plate have failed and relaunched 4 times, each owner not honoring the lasts promises.
If you have only 1 machine, this might be affordable. But imagine having 4 or more machines, as a business you would be staring down the barrel of a $16,000 bill to keep them looking tidy and running.
Note: The person is now trying to sell the machine for $6000 with no takers. You do the math's.
And Power Plate are not the only ones.....
Some companies are charging $800 for a single set of isolators ( the rubber bits that act like a car suspension system for the plate ) . If these are not replaced the machine becomes uncontrollable or stops vibrating properly.
Note: These companies simply deliberately made parts that break so they can fleece you later. And guess what, you can only use the exact parts they sell. Nothing else will work. Unfortunately the industry is not big enough to make producing generic parts profitable yet. So you really are stuck with the problem.
I hope this is a wake-up call to those who thought my warnings about companies just putting the label "commercial" on anything that moved was not scare mongering or an anti-competitive sales pitch. It is real and an ongoing concern.
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Anne Zilstorff |
Posted On:2012-06-14 19:32:44
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Ref Globus vibration machines
Please take a look at my blog - http://physioplate.blogspot.fr - before you decide which machine you want to buy.
As you can read I have and still have big problems with my expensive machine Euro 4 900 from Globus because
they do not noy have a after sale service in at least France.
If I had known that Globus does not offer any sales service,ex reperation I had never bought a machine from Globus.
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Di Heap/VibePlus |
Posted On:2012-06-11 17:31:40
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My New Article – Advice to Vibration Training Instructors Part 1 - Get Tough!
http://www.vibeplus.com/2012/06/11/advice-to-vibration-training-instructors-get-tough-part-1/
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-06-09 09:49:16
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The OTO flabelos machine has been in our country for over 5 years. It never got popular.
It is a Medium Speed Pivotal . Not bad, but not great either. Used correctly it can give some results.
But they are toys compared to what we use in the studios
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nishal_v@yahoo.com |
Posted On:2012-06-09 06:43:40
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Respected Sir,
I wish that you compare the OTO flabelos with yours as the manufacturer is claiming that its the ulitimate whole body virbration machine. Many people are buying this brand and they are giving powerful feedback
Regards,
nishal
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-06-05 10:21:03
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Mike M ....
(1) Her back is "meant" to be straight, as you can see me try to correct her during the pose. But some people find it very difficult to hold perfect pose for a full minute. But you should "aim" for that.
(2) The half-plank is far more achievable and places much less stress on the lower back ( it is the one a mainly do ) .
(3) Shoulder angle.... also has to do with shoulder safety. So I really do advise you never bring your weight over your shoulder joint into that "hammering" position. .
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Mike M. |
Posted On:2012-06-05 08:42:58
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvixUS0F9eg
This is your own full plank video on youtube. The young lady in the video has at least 25 degrees or so of bend at the hips. Look at her back - it's parallel to the floor. The difference between doing it that way and the way I tried it (no bend at hips, and 110 degrees at the shoulder) is about 10X in intensity. That's what I meant - I can't do it that way and not contract the abs. I can barely do it that way at all. Doing it the way shown in the video is fairly easy but I wonder if it is working the abs enough. I also wonder if its similar enough since I reckon your machine is at least 6" - 1 foot higher off the floor than mine.
I was doing it earlier with straight body and 90 degrees at the shoulder; I see now that this was incorrect per the video. It does work the abs but not much difference from what's in the video.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-06-04 17:44:21
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Mike M...
" Pelvic stability , any other pose aiming to hit support ( secondary ) muscle
groups ..
This is where we try get the body to rebalance itself bringing into play
support muscle groups. This can be done because there is no direct response
available or it would be unsafe to do so.
Common misconception... The biggest mistake I see with these poses is when
the customer complains because it does not feel as intense as a direct
response pose, you must tell them "IT IS NOT MEANT TO". These are far more
subtle in nature and should never be confused with just hammering a large
muscle into submission. "
Note: I only do the half plank myself most of the time. I have little reason to work my back or abs hard out.
(my body was in a straight line not bent at the hips like you guys)
A couple of points and questions.....
Do not confuse the glute muscle for a bend in the hips. Everyone usually looks like they are bent at the hips in that pose. But the instructions state........
" Look down towards your knee area then drop your pelvis towards the ground enough so your back is straight".
" I also tried doing it with the 110 degree arm angle and my body straight and that was really hard!"..... what angle were you using before ?
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Mike M. |
Posted On:2012-06-04 08:19:49
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I did not mean to imply that everyone should try the pose that I described. Anyway I would probably not classify it as vibration training, it's more therapy than training I would say. I'd say if someone were much larger than I am (I weigh 225) they might need help doing it or maybe just avoid it altogether. It has definitely done a world of good for my back pain though.
It is interesting how some poses seem to help some people with problems but don't help others and other poses help those others with the same or similar problems. For instance I had been doing the plank for a while and while it seems to strengthen my core a bit it did little for my back problems. In point of fact I was re-watching the plank and mini-plank videos on here and I was doing it a bit differently than you guys (my body was in a straight line not bent at the hips like you guys) and when I tried it the way you show I don't feel it as much is the abs area especially when I do as Lloyd said and relax my abs (which I can't do if my body is straight like I was doing before). I also tried doing it with the 110 degree arm angle and my body straight and that was really hard! Like I can only do 15 seconds and it made me sore! I almost feel like I might be on to something there. So I was wondering - is the plank supposed to be really difficult, and if so, how can you do it with relaxed abs?
I also have a Wave machine which is a bit different than the machine in the video - I think the platform's a bit lower to the ground - which may change things up a bit. How to deal with that?
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Di Heap/VibePlus |
Posted On:2012-06-03 22:30:30
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I hope that all hotel gyms will soon have vibration machines. I have a sore back from traveling and then walking a lot. I could cure it in 3 minutes if the technology was available. 3 x 60 second squats or a 3 minute therapy back massage = relaxed lower back. As long as the machine is quality ( won't break down in 3 months) the brand name or type - pivotal or lineal really doesn't matter for this type of use - therapy / mild training.
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-05-30 23:32:02
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Nicky.
I will call you tomorrow. Nice to get a response.
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Nicky |
Posted On:2012-05-30 22:30:08
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Hi I am answering to your thread on Trade Me for 10 Fibro Sufferers to come to the CBD
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-05-30 21:14:40
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A logical question regarding the new article.
A number of Vibration Training companies claim to sell "medical devices". But their machines can not accommodate the disabled, obese. or those carrying a range of injuries. So who exactly is meant to use it.
The average weighted healthy person ?
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Lloyd Shaw |
Posted On:2012-05-29 14:31:34
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Industry failing the Obese, Disabled and Health Professionals?
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John |
Posted On:2012-05-28 14:07:20
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This is phenomenal news from Lloyd. I agree that trust must lead the way. I also think it is great to name and shame publicly the con artists along with the "brought and paid for" researchers.
John T. Weatherly
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