Good news from Croatia

I'm happy to inform you that second vibration studio equipped with Bodyshakers, and powered with Lloyds safety program was opened yesterday in Croatia, under a name of  Dobre vibracije (Good vibrations for those of you, not so good with Croatian language :)

More information about project „Dobre vibracije“ you can find on : http://www.dobrevibracije.hr/#

The first studio was opened in March, this year, and it displayed very quickly how important is to have a good machine, and reliable program that does the work, produce the results, and not the injuries. The most important fact is to be able to relay to a community that has well being of its customers as a priority. So, thank you all again, and again, for answering my questions promptly, and sincerely. To you, I can promise only one thing- there will be more questions in a time to come.

Special thanks to:

Martin from Bodyshaker, for believing in me, and the project

Lloyd Shaw, for saving a lot of my hard earned money, and guidance (I do hope I will have a chance to repay you one day)

Philippa Church, for being an excellent teacher, and „spiritus movens“

As anyone who is running his own business already knows, there is no guarantee of success. The same thing is with our Dobre vibracije. Especially in the time of financial crisis that hit Croatia really hard, and there is no sign of end of it, at least for now.  But, seeing passion of all of us involved in a Dobre vibracije, as well as you all out there, I have no alternative, but to be a optimist.

Wish us luck

Thanks Mike, for your advice.

I think you’re right. Not sure if any of the home models will last long enough, in terms of plateau, including the BodyShaker Junior. So best to go for a pro model.

 Anyone know how long the BodyShaker pro is likely to last reliability wise, against the tried and tested VibroGym Pro model?  

Thank you for your answers to my previous question. Now please, if any one of you knows anything about 

Gobus My Power home vibration platform from www.gymworld.co.uk - 977 pounds

DKN XG5 - 1250 pounds

Ultim8 Pro from www.ultim8fitness.co.uk - 1499 pounds

or

POWERX Active 3.5 from www.vibrationsplatte.de - 1745 pounds

I m specially interested in Globus it seems that could be a good machine for my mother with good specs from an italian sport manufacturer. But i dont know if what is on paper is real too. Any based on knowledge advice is much appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
 

Amj

Based on your comments, i would go for a second hand vibrogym pro or bodyshaker pro. You would be hard pressed to platue on either of these units provided you followed the vibratrain safety programe to the letter.

I have been running vibrogym pros for over 3 years now in a very busy studio with no problem.

The bodyshaker junior is just a bit below power from the vibrogym pro but wouldstillbe a great unit for home

For anyone considering buying a home machine and looking at the higher force, bigger ones.  They are by far the best for training but just be sure your home is able to take the vibration of the machine and your neighbours are not going to be badly affected.

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/your-home-machine-and-your-neighbours

A small add to the previous post - a rubber mat that fits the platform of the machine is recommended for when body parts other than feet are in contact with the plate, eg the push-up, pelvic stability, triceps dip. It really adds to comfort so if you dont get one supplied with the machine ask if its available or buy one elsewhere to fit.  A small mat for the knees for basic push-up is also good.

Here’s the Vibra-Train Safety Program for use with lineal machines – the step by step instructions are linked at the bottom of the page.  You must follow the instructions fully, always step-by-step, no shortcuts so you start in perfect position.  Then make sure you hold that position, correcting during the minute as necessary.  Print out the instructions and pictures and have someone watch over you.

Because of the shape of the machine you will need to hold the Wide Stance squat without the support of knees around the handlebars so you must ensure you hold your knees in position and not let them drift inwards. You can stand sideways for position 6, the Stretch. Guys cannot sit on lineal vibration machines – you’ll get hit hard where you don’t want to be (think about it!) – it’s great for women and gives fast results.  Also we do not do Position 7 - the Lunge in our studios now, it’s covered up on our posters.  Many people cannot hold the position so the risks outweigh the benefits.

If you can get into http://www.resonancevt.co.uk/   and do some sessions there they will instruct you but that depends where in U.K. you live.

Here’s an interesting article written by Lloyd Shaw about Vibration Training and Precise Joint Angles

Hi Mike,  

My budget isn’t too great, sub 2000 GBP, mainly because I’m a bit vary of spending a lot on something which I may outgrow, or stop using. Also, not sure of the long term reliability of these machines. I’d pay more if I could be sure of getting a platform that I could use for a good few years.

In terms of current cost in the UK:

VibroGym Pro – Approx 5800 but can be bought used for 2500 – 3000

BodyShaker Pro  - Approx same price as VibroGym

BodyShaker Junior – 3600

DKN XG10 – 1800

 So as you can see I can get a second/used VibroGym Pro for the cost of a new DKN, with the BodyShaker Junior somewhere in between.

Decisions….decisions…. 

Lloyd,

Thanks for the feedback. In your list, did you mean the Body Shaker (Pro) or the Junior?

I was getting the power ratings from specs on websites, hence the "on paper" comment.

The Body Shaker Junior model, according to their website, has 2.7KN of force as opposed to their current pro model which has 3.9KN (although I been told they have a new pro model being released in the UK shortly).

The VibroGym Pro also states a force of 3.9KN, but the DKN only list a G Force, which my maths isn't up to converting :)

Unfortunately I haven't been able try any of these machines yet.

Hi Lucian,

 I believe Resonance VT follow Lloyds Training program, http://www.resonancevt.co.uk/ , not sure if there are any others.

Can I ask where you purchased your platform and how much for?

Did you try any others out? 

Hi to everyone and a very big Thank You Lloyd for sharing with us all this information about vibration training. Based on everything a have learnt from you, I just bought a VibroGym pro. Now Lloyd, please recommend someone from the UK who can teach me how to use this machine properly. Thank you in advance for your time and I really appreciate everything what you are doing in here. Thank you.

Where would the Wave Contour Plus place in that list.

AMJ

What is your budget

Thanks Di and Lloyd. It is sounding like I would not be going wrong with the medium energy lineal machine. I would love to hear from Mike if he is willing to share his thoughts, but I think I have narrowed my choices to the DKN XG10 and the Wave Contour Plus.

As for my wife, to be honest, I am not sure I will be able to convince her of the benefits of vibration, but if I can, general fitness and weight loss would be her goals.

I am also interested in learning more about why static positions are recommended over moving. If I recall correctly, many of the studies I have read on the benefits of WBV for athletes were done with athletes moving actively on the platform.

Thanks.

Haim

I’m hoping Mike Hair will comment as his studio had both types of machine side by side.  You also haven’t told us much about your wife and her needs. 

I’ve just had a full studio over lunchtime of 30-40 year old women, some longtime customers , some very new, others second or third time and they are getting great results on the lineal machines.

Haim

Results are what we all want – you have asked for a comparison of Medium Force Lineal to High Speed Pivotal. 

They are different modes, however I found using a High-Speed Pivotal it had a feel similar to lineal – that is its pivot was so fast it was barely noticeable – but only when used at the faster settings.  It felt similar though it was NOT the same

and for results, as an instructor I’ve only seen muscle quality and growth increases from using lineal machines.  High-speed pivotal gives fitness and if you use a full dynamic program.

On Medium force Lineal machines we recommend the Vibra-Train safety Program of completely static (not moving) positions.

It is safe for your athletic children to use the machines.  Again my leaning would be to lineal and the only restriction is that they take instruction and understand they must remain in perfect position during the entire time of each position. Don’t force them to use the machines in my opinion, they’ll know if its working for them.  I have a 13 year old netball player who I train regularly twice a week . She loves it and has developed real power in her arms and legs.  Some other young people don’t like it.