Hi any comments on the cardiotech VT looking for weight loss and toning.

Thanks

I have to say, not sure I get the vibrating bike. Why not just ride one on a bumpy road.

Nice website, Franco. I admit I had to resort to google translate.

What's the opinion of the Hypervibe Galaxy that's supposed to be out soon? Is it really worth the $10-15000 rumored price? Is continuously variable amplitude in a pivotal really worth as much as an economy car? Word is it has WiFi and a built in accelerometer too. Inquiring minds want to know...

Hey, my intensity of muscle contraction on the Crazy Fit had gone way down lately. It's just I'm not sure if my legs are stronger or the machine is just wearing down. I resorted to holding the handle and mashing my heel down last time, adding upper arm pulling strength to leg push to increase intensity. Still seems kind of less than before. And it's been making a funny noise for over a month now...

An interesting point concerning adaptation and the choice of frequency and amplitude on lineal machines – Newcomers use level 2 Vibra-Train machines set at 43hz, 3mm and even those who are unfit cope with this setting.  Its hard work but they can do it. 

Then at around 9 or 10 visits they start to complain about the intensity and say that “it hurts” more, the intensity of muscle contraction has increased.  This doesn’t make sense when compared with conventional exercise – but this is also the point at which the client also says they are stronger, have more energy, and for those who need it, start to lose fat and change shape.

This is definitely adaptation yet the machine settings haven’t been changed  - the user’s muscle quality has improved = stronger feel of muscle contraction and there’s even better results ahead. And that’s staying on the same machine, same program, same times.

We use a form of periodisation – we get clients to use a different machine on each session, swapping over two models.  Oh and to upset the “experts” even more – the other machine type is also set at 43hz but at only 0.7mm amplitude.

It's this sort of response that the "experts" on another forum couldn't understand and argued with me that it can’t work - on the face of it, the physics don't support this.

BUT

We always have to remember we are measuring the response of a human body not physics in a vacuum.

It also shows there’s more to the physics of the actual vibration machine than just frequency and amplitude – that is for lineal machines

That makes me wild….It is idiots like Guss that makes our industry hard work. The best thing that could happen to this guy and power plate is to fail miserably

Lloyd

Lloyd..

Mike M

Trust me, just by being on the platform at 2mm then 4mm you will certainly notice the difference

Well I just learned that this (settable amplitude) is a change to the Contour Plus; there was an older model that only did one amplitude but the new model will be doing 2mm on low and 4mm on high. So I would think that this would make its power pretty close to that of the Air Reflex and Pro Elite models, just going by the amplitude/frequency rating. Of course the fact the other two are heavier machines will give them a bit more, but I think this will be pretty close. Any one agree/disagree?

You know, that is interesting and just about exactly mirrors what I experienced on the Wave Pro Elite that I tried out.

Right now I am curious about the model that I have on order. On the website, the spec sheet calls for "highs and lows" being available amplitude settings. However, I found another Contour Plus owner who tells me there's only one amplitude setting available. If that is true, then I am greatly disappointed and would like to know why the spec says what it does. Maybe it is just that the machine does not tell you what the amplitude actually is, but if so, I would like to see it listed somewhere so I know what I am actually getting. Maybe it is 2mm for the "massage" or "stretching" setting and 4mm for the "exercise" setting, but how am I to know that unless someone tells me or I attach a measurement device to the platform once it arrives?

Mike M.,

Franco,

Are you aware of any pro basketball players (or college) gaining any noticeable strength, or vertical leaping ability, from the use of a vibration training platform?

Lloyd

Mike M.

Hi Franco

I am curious if any of the platforms you looked at included the current Wave models? Also, having been a pro basketball player, did you see vibration used with the pro team(s) you were a part of, and what machine(s) were they if you did? What kind of uses have you seen the technology used for in pro sports? With what kind of results? I'm sure I'm not the only one here curious about this type of thing.

Thanks Mike! 

I believe you said the right word, passion. I know you guys are very passionate about vibration training and this is what made me decide to join this community. I hope I will share success stories very soon, anyways I already consider a success being able to do what I like to make a living, and contribute to the diffusion of this great, great form of training... 

Hi Franco, Congratulations on your decision to start your own studio.

You sound very passionate about vibration training which will stand you in good stead to succeed in this industry.

We look forward to here of your success stories.

Mike

Hi all! My name is Franco, I'm from Italy, I'm 39 and I was a professional basketball player. In 2006 I was invited to participate to a VibroGym workshop, where they presented the machines to the italian market, and then took the course to become an instructor. For me it has been love at first sight, I appreciated this new form of workout right away. I had several knee injuries during my career that forced me to quit the game in 2005, and ever since it was very hard for me to train in the traditional way. With vibration training though, I had the chance to work on my muscles without stressing the joints and keep a good tone, especially in my legs.

I could put the argument even simpler. They make lots of hammers out of different materials, but if you notice, no one ever makes the hammer head out of a lightweight material (such as plastic), even though it would no doubt be a cheaper alternative. And if you want to drive into a super dense material, the heaviest head is usually the choice.

Not saying the human body is a dense material (usually) but it would be easier to take a strong force driven with a heavy head (platform) and damp it down than it would be to do the reverse. Just IMO.

Yes I asked around a bit and got directed to the study where they used some obscure Italian platform (TSEM S.p.A., Padova-Italy) that I can't seem to find out much about, but it appears to be a lineal(!), and it looks like maybe it's the one that they use to quote that 27Hz=optimal. On lineal? Really? I was on a Wave at 30 to 50 Hz and I would have said 30 was weak at best. In the 40s was where the action was. So that, (ironically) makes me feel a bit more confident in my platform selection, for some reason...