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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-07 13:45:45
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Paula....
Well so far you have isolated 2 of the better brands, VibroGym and Body-Shaker. We have both types of units still working after 5 years here in N.Z.. They are quite different in feel and look so having a mixture of both would be ideal. You also tend to come across more of an expert by having a variety of models on the floor.
I would strongly suggest you contact Philippa Church http://www.resonancevt.co.uk/ to get advice on how to go about things. They have a lot of experiences they can share with you.
The only issue with VibroGym at present is Dan Fivey is running the U.K. side of things, and he is one dodgy person.
And you are right not to go with Power Plate, they are not commercial quality enough for a busy studio. .
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Paula |
Posted On:2010-11-07 12:36:49
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Hi Lloyd,
I think I may have found you and your site in the nick of time, just want some general advice looking at opening a 5 plate UK studio and until doing careful research was looking to purchase Power Plate Pro6. I have further researched and I belive that Vibrogym are the plates that I can afford and that most importantly have good reports and will get clients results. I also heard good reports about Bodyshaker but Im unsure of the affordability of this brand as yet. Please can you let me know your input on my thoughts thanks
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-07 11:00:42
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It would really depend on why she gets seizures. Do you know what the trigger is ?
I have had one girl who used to get them through stress, so it was unknown if stress brought on by Vibration Training would be an issue. But it wasn't.
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rsk |
Posted On:2010-11-07 10:27:21
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Hi Guys
one more question. My wife gets mild seizures once in a while. I was wondeirng of my wife can use the vibration machine.
Thanks
rsk
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-06 14:05:51
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Yes it is a good machine, and they are trustworthy.
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cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-06 13:35:43
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Hi Lloyd, this is Cynthia.
i just received the answer from Hypervibe
The one machine our HyperVibe compares to is www.galileouk.co.uk It is the only true commercial pivotal in the world.
Ours offers the same performance, but is a home machine. We retail for $2499 and our new 2011 model will be $2599 available late January.
What do you think, it is a good machine
Waiting for your answer..
Thanks
Un beso. Cynthia
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-06 13:17:14
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Di ...
A small bump in your advice. A dishonest salesperson is going to tell you they do use the product. Even if they don't.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2010-11-06 13:05:41
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Also just to make sure readers of this forum know – Lloyd Shaw does not sell home Vibration Machines. I do not currently sell any Vibration machines. I don’t get any “kickback” or reward for recommending any brand. On this forum we prefer not to recommend a brand or specific machine but to give information that helps people choose what is best for them, given their health and fitness status, the results they want to see, and the money they have to spend.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2010-11-06 12:57:54
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To all - When buying a machine for home use please ask the salesperson, “Do you use this machine yourself?” You’ll find most are just marketers who wouldn’t dream of using the cheap machines they sell because they know they don’t work for fitness. The salesguy might look good but he probably spends hours in the gym or uses a much higher quality vibration machine.
I could have made a lot of money selling cheap, almost useless machines because despite writing many articles on my website, www.vibeplus.com explaining why you shouldn’t buy a cheap, pivotal machine and expect great fitness results, I get emails and website questions asking me where to buy one or to send information about buying one from me.
It makes me angry to see people get ripped off - “If the picture of one brand of machine looks identical to the picture of another brand of machine … it is the same - just rebranded”
Or to quote from Lloyd Shaw’s article: http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/why-is-buying-a-vibration-platform-just-like-buying-a-vehicle
If it looks like a Skateboard , it’s a Skateboard.
If it looks like a Truck , it’s a Truck - Now to the question again, "Why cant I buy a great Truck for only $1000 ? "
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-06 12:56:51
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Yes these are fake specs..... FREQUENCY 0-55 Hz
In reality it tops out at 9-14 Hz. The question has to be asked why they would triple its real speed. They are "experts" and apparently manufacture the machines. So it cant be a simple mistake.
The fact is they are dishonest amateurs, willing to tell you anything to get a sale.
Eg...... They go on about how DC motors are safer because it has a smaller magnetic field. Then go on to list all the benefits from units tested with AC motors. Using fear to get a sale is in my opinion the lowest of the low.
Real scumbags.
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Cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-06 12:41:52
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Thanks Di Heap.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2010-11-06 12:32:18
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Cynthia
Yes, that machine is on the blacklist for a reason
Read this: http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/general-consumer-warning-about-cheap-pivotals
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cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-06 12:27:17
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Lloyd, cynthia again.
This is in the black list http://www.vibra-trim.net/VT100.html
Thanks
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2010-11-06 12:18:13
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rsk
Take it easy when you start using the HyperVibe pivotal platform. I experienced muscle pain from overdoing it when I was given a one session trial of this machine. This was because I was doing a lot of movement – regular exercises while using the machine. I suggest you start with some simple static semi-squat poses and get used to the motion at first. You should receive a DVD or program booklet but my advice is to take it easy at first.
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Cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-06 12:17:02
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Thank you very much Lloyd, I will contact them.
Keep in touch.
Regards
Cynthia
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cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-06 10:55:19
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Ok Lloyd I understand. So I will be waiting for you to give me any suppliers of faster speed Pivotal in USA.
Thanks again.
Regards. Cynthia
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-06 10:24:15
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RSK...
My advice is consistency is where the best results lie.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-06 10:20:18
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Cynthia....
Do not deal with SlimVibes, they deliberately sell machines under fake specs. Once a company does that they can not be trusted.
Yes a faster speed Pivotal will give you results. Just slower than a High Energy Lineal.
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Cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-06 06:36:28
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Lloyd, this is Cynthia again,
I received an email answered one of my question and it said
Hello Cynthia,
For muscle mass, I would recommend the Vibra-Pro 5500. You can find more information here :
http://www.slimvibes.com/compare.html
What do you think about this machine.
Thank you so much
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Cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-06 05:01:32
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Thank you again Lloyd, that will help me a lot.
My question is if the faster speed Pivotal will work for what I want or need.
Or the good quality Lineal unit or nothing. Because I dont have that money. You can understand what i want to tell you. I dont want to spend 800 for something that doesnt work for me... I dont know if in this is the better or nothing.
Hope you can understand my english.
Thanks again. Waiting for your answer.
Best regards
Un beso. Cynthia
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-05 17:06:39
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Cynthia...
You will not get a good quality Lineal unit for anything under about $6000 , so your only option is to find a faster speed Pivotal.
I will have to see if there are any suppliers of this kind of product in your country.
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cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-05 16:55:06
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Hi Lloyd, thanks for your quit answer.
Yes, I read it. But I couldnt understand perfectly the differences between lineal energy from Pivotal speed. What I need is to strengthen my muscles. I do wakeboarding and i had several ACL surgeries. I think 2000 or less, if it is possible.
Thank so much.
Best regards
Cynthia
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-05 16:34:42
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Cynthia...
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Cynthia |
Posted On:2010-11-05 13:56:41
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Hello, my name is Cynthia, I live in Miami. I have been reading about vibro training for one or two weeks. I started because a person that i knew in my husband job told me about that. She told me that is very good for increase the muscle mass, that what i need. But the more I read the more I confused. I would like to buy one for my home, but I dont have any idea. My english is no perfect, i am from argentina, that makes more difficult to understand.
I read that rsk put some links but nobody responded.
PLEASE, I NEED THAT SOMEONE TELL ME WHICH MACHINE I HAVE TO BUY.
Thanks.
Waiting for a response. Regards
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-05 11:16:03
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rsk |
Posted On:2010-11-04 02:48:38
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Thanks again everyone. Though HyperVibe is more expensive than what I can afford, I do want to get a good machine that will last for a long time and serve the purpose. Do any of you know where in Toronto I can rent a HyperVibe for a couple of weeks before I buy it out. It would help to try it for a couple of weeks and see what it does for me rather than trying it just once during a demo.
Thanks
rsk
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-03 18:18:10
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Yes I laughed when I read that. Pretty harsh but accurate none-the-less.
There are no guarantees of success, but I meant it when I stated that unless studios invested in true commercial products, and followed well structured programs. All they would end up doing is advertising for us. And with our increase in numbers countrywide, it was an accurate prediction.
VibroGym was a classic example. They had good machines but random programs. Someone even told me once " they are useless " I replied " No the machines are great, I brought 40 of them, the programs are what lets them down "
The Power Plate studios on the other hand were a set up disaster waiting to happen.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2010-11-03 18:06:03
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Here’s a warning to the whole Vibration Training industry. It’s someone’s personal blog explaining through the consumer’s eyes what has happened to commercial studios in New Zealand.
The funny thing is what they say happened is exactly the predictions that Lloyd made years ago – that studios had to have commercial machines and strict safety programs that everyone can learn Or they’d go out of business.
“Vibration training has been around for a while now and a while back when it was a fad in Auckland there were studios sprouting up all over the place. Most of them were rubbish and have closed down but Vibratrain has stuck around.”
http://thehypenz.blogspot.com/2010/07/vvvvvvvvvvibratrain.html
Remember we were not just up against crap machines. I saw Vibrogym set up in New Zealand and fall over just as fast because they didn’t offer the entire package. As an instructor I now understand how important having everything in place is.
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KirkRegular |
Posted On:2010-11-03 12:30:19
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RSK...
We run a training studio in Newfoundland and we are currently using Wave Vibraflex or galileo and HyperVibe machines. for the price HyperVibe is your best option. It performs as well as our galileo at 4x the cost without the quality german construction. it is a little more than you budgeted for but anything less would not give you the results you are looking for. Any cheap machine found on the internet for less than 2000 dolars is false advertising as far as i am concerned.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2010-11-03 11:52:32
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RSK..
The review http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews has clear descriptions of what to look for on machines so you can correctly classify them. No matter what the brand. Emailing suppliers and asking for exact specs always helps in this task. If you think they are being dodgy, come on here to confirm specs , country of origin etc.. with us.
The HyperVibe because of its speed is a Premium speed Pivotal.
The big Waves are at the higher end of Medium Energy Lineal , but the lighter plastic one from China is a few steps lower.
You should get results on all those units. But a lot of factors can vary how much.
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