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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-29 10:46:50
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As I stated in an earlier post, it is not just the number of hits that counts. It is who's reading our work that means everything to us.
From the emails I get a few things have become obvious. Everyone from your average consumer to MDs like our approach to the industry, each honing in on the articles they are interested in ( I think the layout makes this process no so daunting for the average consumer ) . They also seem to not be as trusting of other " impartial" marketing sites discussing this industry anymore. I hardly ever get " but I read off another site " as a response to my advice nowadays.
There is a certain tipping point I am working towards, and when that happens, I think it will even stagger our regular contributors. And all those who tried to take a shortcut to recognition and influence through unethical means will just have watch on.
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MikeHair |
Posted On:2011-01-28 21:42:34
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Thats awesome bro...just the beggining mate just the beggining. Heres to the future in vibration training
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Philippa Church |
Posted On:2011-01-28 19:55:51
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Brilliant. Very well deserved.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-28 16:22:32
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Site Traffic update...
We have now just tipped the 10,000 pages viewed per month figure. The best thing about it is most people are reading a variety of articles, staying at each one for about 3 mins on average.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-01-26 08:07:34
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There are several new articles up on “The Industry, the Theory and Trainers Tips” page.
http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/the-industry-the-theory-and-trainers-tips
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-25 00:19:54
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Mike...
You are talking about a company that promotes attempting a 10 min push-up. An actually impossible task. And gets an Indian marketing company to write up its recommended programs.
Should be illegal but unfortunately we are the only option for some people to get a decent answer off.
Rsk... Mike was the first person to put up a Pivotal studio, in the world. So he gets pretty pissed at amateurs selling machines with no safety in mind.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-24 17:22:21
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Linda.....
Yes you can continue using the machine, but you must get a support frame around the machine ( you may be able to buy a walker that does the job ). Taking pressure out of your squats is the key to safely training after your kind of surgery.
Rsk.......
Firstly was this recommended to you ?
No it is not advised for Men to do the anti-cellulite massage ( high speed ) for the very reasons you are concerned about. But there is a seated abdominal exercise guys can do ( always low-med speed ) that is not vigorous enough to cause any concern.
Note: The concern comes not just from logic, but in tests some Men felt ill after being exposed to such vibration. For Men that is always a warning sign things are getting too shaken up down below. So even though there is no "research" on the subject, I prefer to trust mother nature on the subject.
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rsk |
Posted On:2011-01-24 16:11:01
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Hello all ,
This is a question for guys. I just bought a hyper vibe machine a few weeks ago. To begin with I only stood on it and trained. Yesterday I sat on the platform for the first time and felt the vibration in my back and groin area. Can you guys tell me if it is ok for men to sit on the platform and train as it really vibrates the groin area pretty vigrourously. Will it affect the functioning, if u know what I mean. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
rsk
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Linda |
Posted On:2011-01-24 16:08:38
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I have been using Vibrogym domestic for 12 months until I had bilateral knee replacements 6 months ago. My surgeon, GP and physiotherapist have all said they would get back to me as to whether I can continue using it but havent, probably because they don't know much about vibration training. When I google it, knee arthroscopy comes up with a yes but I have still not found out about knee replacements. My common sense says no as over time the cement binding would jiggle loose. Does anyone know if I can use the machine again as if not I will sell it and move on.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-24 15:41:52
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Fq x Amplitude = A limited equation
For industry people, who might appreciate a different perspective on what they are told by some "experts" on Vibration Training. This year I believe even some companies who stated the Fq x Amplitude was all that counts ( amplitude is everything ) , are going to surpass that limitation.
And I will be further clarifying in my next industry article how some people who are not physics minded, got confused in the first place.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-24 12:51:55
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Why would they lie about the model type.
Clue.. Try to buy replacement parts for the Power Plate Next Generation machine, or even get it fixed. If they are trying to sell it into a commercial location this is something they do not want asked. Remember these machines are the price of a small car. They should be repairable and refurbish-able.
Power Plate have a history of doing this to the consumer.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-22 17:09:55
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Typical dishonest Power Plate person. In the last action they lied about where it was built. In this one they lie about the model type.
It would seem that Power Plate attract dishonest people to them. Beware someone even selling a second hand unit.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-22 10:26:31
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The fact is competition protects not only the industry but the consumer. But you will find some companies truly act as though having a monopoly would be their ideal.
But people with a monopoly become obsessed with protecting it, It very quickly becomes about keeping down new developments from other companies, even going to the extent of discrediting people or sometimes taking a different tact and buying designs, then shelving them .
Think about this. You are on the Board of Directors of a company that already own 100% of an industries sales. Someone comes to you with an idea to build a better machine. But that would mean a new factory, retraining staff and then promoting the new unit. The only way you could justify the expense is if the new design was so far advanced, people would just have to buy it and throw out their old one.
Note: Play-Station is a great example of this. Big leaps in technology is the best advantage to have in the market place .
But in reality that is not how innovation works, it is usually small steps over a period of time. Spread out over 50 companies these small steps are just seen as normal market place competition. But with a monopoly they have zero motivation to have small steps in innovation, so their only choice after a while is to try and lock up and stall the process. Unfortunately there is no ethical way of doing this, they must become sneaky, underhanded or outright aggressive to protect what they have.
Power Plate did this by getting their salespeople to say that ONLY Power Plate built proper machines, even going to the extent of telling people their eyeballs will explode if you use someone's else's ( un-calibrated by their experts ) product.
We have companies fear mongering at present, but trust me their motives have nothing to do with protecting the consumer. It is all about protecting their market share. Which is understandable, but its definitely not in the sciences or consumers best interests to listen to these people.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-01-21 21:40:50
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This is the essence of Hyper-Competition - what Lloyd Shaw refers to as wanting and needing competition to drive our industry forward.
He says it is not about keeping knowledge to yourself out of fear of losing a sale But giving some of it away so everyone can benefit.
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Terry |
Posted On:2011-01-21 09:41:22
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Thank you for your comments
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Alejandra |
Posted On:2011-01-21 07:06:09
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I am looking forward to buy a used fit vibe excell platform, do you know where I can find one,
please let me know,
aqdesalazarQyahoo.com
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-01-20 10:36:58
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Golden Rules @ Vibra-Train
On our studio wall we have a list of non-negotiable rules. They serve to make the training experience enjoyable and effective. They are also useful as reminders to customers of why we do things the way we do.
The very first rule is: You MUST eat before your Vibra-Train session
Here’s a link to a fuller explanation of this rule
http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/why-eat-before-a-vibration-training-workout
I’m putting this up as a reminder to Instructors (please ask your clients if they have eaten) and to customers and intending customers who read this forum. The simplest way to eat before training is to eat a banana. It comes in its own self sealed protective casing, its non messy (except for infants) and as its high in both simple and complex carbs – it’s the simple carbs that are needed for your workout. The sugars in the banana readily enter your bloodstream and there we have it – instantly available energy source which means you won’t deplete your blood sugars after the first two or three positions; it’s easier to hold perfect form as you work through the program; you won’t become dizzy or light headed and I won’t have to pick you up off the floor; or next time you come in you won’t have to admit that you hadn’t eaten but survived the program session and then felt terrible or fainted as you walked back to work.
It is the Instructor’s responsibility to ensure you eat before your session and to refuse to let you train if you haven’t. I’ve just sent an elderly man to a local cafe. I offered him the money to by a banana from our car-parking money jar. He declined and said he would eat and then return but he was rather annoyed and replied that he was intelligent and was listening but that I needed a blood sugar monitor to prove this to him. I’m a little amused by his comments – in my first week as a Vibra-Train instructor I saw the worst of what can happen when a fit, healthy person hasn’t eaten. I hope he returns but I care more about him training in a safe, effective way. I cannot be talked out of this first basic rule and all instructors need to be the same.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-19 12:59:28
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Terry ...
Yes finding an old Power Plate is ideal. They were built in Holland ( same factory as Vibro-Gym now ) but once they moved production to China / India it was all downhill from there.
The only thing that would stop me from getting a VibroGym in the U.S. is lack of support. It really is a European centered brand at present.
The issue you have is the Higher Energy you want, the more engineering issues a company can have. Have you looked at DKN or Wavexercise ( only look at the steel units ) . Not up to VibroGym standards, but they have good records for reliability so far.
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Philippa Church |
Posted On:2011-01-19 10:38:40
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Hi Terry, yes vibrogym is a good bet, pro version though not domestic. Hypergravity machines have had big problems with reliabilty, I have personally experienced this, although nice machines when they work.
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Terry |
Posted On:2011-01-19 09:22:26
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Wow, read through several pages of this from the old site and new.
It is difficult to sort through all of this.
i live in the USA and would like to purchase a home unit. Previous to reading this site I was going to purchase a Power Plate Pro. I have worked out on it with my Pilates instructor. Her model must be around 5 or 8 yrs old.
I have osteopenia and I would also train on the unit.
Please recommend a unit. It sounds as if you like the Vibro Gym. How about the Hypergravity
It is difficult to make a informed decision. sigh.
Thank you for your assistance
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Dean |
Posted On:2011-01-18 20:18:11
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Gary
We constructed a poster with pictures of safety program on Bodyshaker, as a part of our studio concept. I can e-mail you this poster, so you can print it, and use it as training program for your clients. You can send me your e-mail on info@dobrevibracije.hr
But, I have to say, it is hard, if not impossible to learn how to put a client in to a proper position, and how to correct him or her during training only from pictures. You need to see it in practice, and learn it form experienced teacher. Here you are lucky, since you live in same country as Philippa. Me, I had to travel all the way to London, to see how it is done. Not that I'm complaining. It was a great experience.
Thanks again Philippa
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-18 16:14:59
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New articles up today....
One takes all the hearsay out of our industries testing and fighting fake specs.....
This one on the dangers of marketing over-hype, and lessons be should learn from recent history......
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-01-18 13:03:49
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Gary....
Being the single largest purchaser and placer of VibroGym Pro units to date, I will tell you the Safety Program was first tested on that exact unit. Some of our studios are still running the machines.
If you send me an email lloyd@vibra-train.com I will see if I can pull up the original pictures of me on the VG doing the poses. But some one-on-one training with Philippa is needed to really understand the precision of this form of training, and gain the confidence to teach it to others.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-01-18 11:32:27
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Gary
I’m glad Phillipa has replied. Hands on learning is the very best way to go and you are close enough even if you have to take a flight to do it. In studios we are very strict about being perfect position on the machines and we get great results. I think Instructors learn best how to enforce that strictness and the small points of training through spending a day or two in a studio.
Please read the relevant articles on this website if you haven’t already and get any staff to read them too.
Also watch our instructor training videos on YouTube to get you started. http://www.youtube.com/user/VibraTrain#p/u/7/6fWoFeiPkcY
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Gary |
Posted On:2011-01-18 09:26:44
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Hi Di and Philipa, thank you for your prompt replies. We are located in South Devon, which is roughly 200 miles south of London.
Thanks again, Gary
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Philippa Church |
Posted On:2011-01-18 09:21:22
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Hi Gary, without blowing our own trumpet, I don't know of anywhere other than us who offer quality training, certainly in terms of the safety programme. You are most welcome to call me, if you email us, I will send you my mobile number. Where are you?
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-01-18 09:09:47
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Hi Gary
The best program for a VibroGym Pro is the Vibra-Train Safety Program.
Chart: http://www.vibra-train.com/exercises-bullet.html
Full Step by Step Instructions: http://www.vibra-train.com/exercises-explained.html
You can contact Phillipa at Resonance Vibration Training in Ampthill, Beds. She has Vibra-Train machines and I’m sure she’ll help you by phone or if you can visit you’d learn so much in a short time http://www.resonancevt.co.uk/
Note: the Vibra-Train Safety program is Safe and Effective – no random poses or movements. Your gym customers need to be fully supervised so put the VibroGym in a place where that’s possible even when they have learnt how to use it.
You can also email Lloyd Shaw at Vibra-Train in NZ for help (contact email on website) and call at any time for (free) advice and help.
Like you, I cannot recommend the VG distributor but I may have another UK contact also and will reply again when I’ve checked. It would help if we knew where in UK you are.
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Gary |
Posted On:2011-01-18 04:28:30
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I am from the UK and have just purchased a VibroGym Pro. I do not rate their training, do you know of any reputable training companies in the UK before I introduce this machine into my Gym.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-01-17 13:54:31
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Vibration Training Machine Designer talks the Talk and Walks the Walk
http://www.gofigure.co.nz/doc/content/view/1190/29/
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-01-17 13:06:54
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Have you read this article?
What is the IVTRB?
http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/what-is-the-ivtrb
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