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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-03-08 16:20:25
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Yes John I have had some interesting feedback regarding the KN article. It seems it has suddenly dawned on some industry people they have been hoodwinked. But these were just salespeople never claiming to be experts.
I know some people will be genuine in their surprise, but others tried far too hard to not have this subject discussed for me ever to think it wasn't a deliberate ploy to mislead the consumer.
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John |
Posted On:2011-03-08 06:50:49
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Enjoyed the recent articles and videos. Keep up the great work.
John Weatherly
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-03-07 15:31:26
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"No such thing as a bad machine" article......
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-03-04 17:10:18
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New article up.....
Lets just sit back and watch not who comments on the article, but who doesn't. Especially "experts" who read this forum religiously. The ones that keep harping on about "independent engineering" studies on machines and their links to good results. Because they are the ones who do NOT want this discussed.
The silence from some will be deafening. But guess what, the truth is loud.
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MikeHair |
Posted On:2011-03-03 18:06:45
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Deanna
In regards to my last answer, I am speaking from experience as I ran a studio that had both pivotal and lineal and found that pivotal was more uncomfortable for lower back injuries than lineal.
Also if you want to build your bone density back up then you need a machine that is going to produce enough pressure for that to happen.
Hope that helps
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-03-03 16:33:05
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Deanna..
Does the T-Zone come from Canada . Did you read that somewhere ?
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MikeHair |
Posted On:2011-03-03 08:31:11
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Deanna
After reading the page you put up, i wouldnt trust too much of what it says......Once again we see a marketer trying to sell machines by saying that lineal technology is not good for you and compares it to a jackhammer...
As you will see on this site we promote both forms, pivotal and lineal as they both have a place in society. It is obvious the guy on the video is only speaking about what he has read on the internet from other marketers.
Personally I think lineal coupled with our safety programe would be a better option given your degeneration of the lower spine and fibromyalgia. You would need a medium to high energy lineal which would probably be out of the price range for most people to have at home. Have a look at the ad on the home page for bodyshaker.
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Deanna |
Posted On:2011-03-03 06:39:13
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I live in Arizona and I believe the TZone comes from Canada. You can check the specs here http://guardiantrader.com/Whole_Body_Vibration.html
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-02-28 13:28:20
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Deanna – a few questions
1. Where abouts are you? (some companies charge $2000 for machines you can get for $300 elsewhere)
2. When you look at a specific seller – to buy a machine - Can you please tell us the advertised specs of the machine - before you buy it! This is so we can advise you if they are being honest and are a reputable dealer, or not.
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Di Heap |
Posted On:2011-02-28 08:51:12
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Deanna
The T-Zone is a Low Speed Pivotal – see here: http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews
It is a therapy unit and as you’ve already seen some benefits from using it having one at home seems a good idea.
Billie
I removed your blatant advertising. While we promote healthy eating and taking supplements that provide benefit for various conditions we do not allow spam and self promotion.
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Deanna |
Posted On:2011-02-28 05:40:21
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Do you have any information or opinion on the VT 15 machine by TZone. I have used one a few times at my massage therapists and feel good after the treatment. My problems are Fibromyalgia, degenerative disease in lower spine and some areas of arthritis. With the cost of the treatment plus a round trip of about 30 miles each time, it wouldnt take long to pay for having one at home. Am seriously considering buying one and the TZone sounds good.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-26 14:49:54
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Dean...
Yes I think those that see the IVTRB Safety Program as simplistic underestimate ..
(a) What is going on inside the body.
(b) Simplicity is strived for and indeed imperative for launching any new idea.
I always said the program and how we articulate our ideas, was as important as the machines we make. Keep up the good work.
An update on Di Heaps article, about poorly written articles...
Google is doing something about it.....
It has already had an effect on 1 company that relied on such rubbish to get ratings. And the real effects will start showing in a week or two.
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Dean Mistura |
Posted On:2011-02-26 12:13:39
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Yesterday, I presented a lecture for members of our sport medicine society. That was first such lecture about vibration training and therapy in Croatia. Hopefully it wasn't a last one.
My main argument was that this technology allow us to combine a protection of isometric contraction (static exercise), and muscle activation equivalent to isotonic contraction (dynamic movement) all in one, with vibration stimuli of hi energy vibration machine. This argument presents a strong indication for use of vibration exercises in treatment of degenerative diseases of knee, and hip, ass well as in overuse injuries, such are jumper's knee, chronic groin syndrome, achilodynia, etc.
The reactions of MD's and PT's were really good. As one doctor said "I didn't know it is so simple. Before this, I presumed this is just another anticelulite treatment for which I don't have any use in my daily practice." Other MD added: "There is so much contradictory information available about this technology, which makes understanding and using vibration stimuli in medicine real challenge, because great uncertainty about body reaction to any stimuli makes one reluctant to advise use of such treatment in particular patient. Seeing simple protocols such as this with strict practical rules, makes clinical decision much easier."
Now, we have seen a lot of arguments for and against safety program here, and on another forums, and I think that arguing will go on. But I have to say that in everyday physiotherapy practice safety program presents simple and workable set of rules that is easily explainable to a patient, as well as to a MD. Furthermore, predictability of physiological effects of such program makes it more acceptable for indications in orthopedic medicine.
Also, I proposed a protocol for reducing a risk of injuries in strength training for professional athletes with vibration. More about this in my next posts.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-25 18:38:26
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New Myth-Buster Videos released on the Industry & Theory side......
Part 2 & 3. Covering some basic vibration / physics facts.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-25 13:22:59
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Chris ,now I have more info this is my recommendation....
DKN ( only their steel units )
Actually if proprioception ( balance ) is your children's main issue I would go for a Pivotal unit like NitroFit. Lineal really is more for power, speed and quality muscle gain ( body-fat % loss ) The lower speeds on Pivotal work directly on balance and processing issues .
The fact is you could get away with buying a Crazy-Fit type unit Vibra-Slim etc.. but they break down so much it just not worth the hassle.
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ChrisL |
Posted On:2011-02-25 09:46:20
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First time post, I have 2 children with severe processing issues that include balance and coordination issues. I believe that vibration therapy will help my children and my wife and I. Any recommendations as to what machine I should purchase for my home. From my understanding Lineal is better than Pivotal due to the nature of mans movement relative to gravity which I conceptually see. Looking for some help, from what I gather DKN is a good product.
Thank ypu,
Chris L
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-24 15:19:46
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New Videos released on the Industry & Theory side......
They are there to clear up some simple questions. So simple in fact I promise you will wonder how the "experts" missed them in the first place....
As always the answer is simple, they were not "experts" to begin with. They were just copying each other frantically trying not to be left behind. Never stopping to ask themselves if the person before them even knew what they were talking about.
This is pure intellectual laziness, the kind of thing we expect from marketers. Not scientists.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-23 16:48:41
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Dave...
A word of advice. Do not read their website or follow any of their instructions. They are on-sellers, nothing more nothing less.
No Pivotal machine released to date goes up as high as 56Hz. VibraPro are not confused, they just made up a random figure that sounded good. ( most Lineal units only go up to 50Hz, so they just added a few more for good measure for marketing purposes ) Never mind neither system should ever be compared.
You will find the Hz increase in 0.2 increments and top out at about 18hz.
I would not trust them to clean my toilet properly. They are first class morons.
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Dave |
Posted On:2011-02-23 15:35:27
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I received a vibropro 5500 today.While I am satisfied with the machine the following incorrect information is displayed on their website 0 to 56 hz actually it is 12 to 56 hz, 28 speeds actually 22 at 2hz intervals,biomass indicator there is none, 5 programs plus manual actually there are 4 plus manual
Just an fyi
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-23 13:28:07
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VibroCise...
Did you go through Dan Fivey to get your VibroGyms . Is he still the UK rep ?
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-23 12:10:03
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Never had it reported before, And I must have used 40 Vibro-Gyms.
Having said that the 4mm amplitude setting can be quite hard of soft tissue, but good shoes should protect anybody from heel issues.
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Philippa Church |
Posted On:2011-02-23 10:23:23
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Hi vibrocise, we have not experienced this in our studio. Good idea to get in touch with whoever sold you your machines. I believe you have bought vibrogyms, so hopefully you are getting some after sales advice and support from Dan Fivey. If should be able to give you some input on whether he has seen this before.
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Philippa |
Posted On:2011-02-23 10:13:57
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Sending lots of love to beautiful New Zealand. Hope you heal quickly. X
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vibrocise |
Posted On:2011-02-23 04:36:51
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Hi there, I wondered if you could help at all........somebody who has been coming to our studio for 4 weeks now has said that she has now got stone bruise on her heel, she says that its been through coming to our studio. I do know that she is a hairdresser and on her feet all day. I was wondering if anybody knew of any way that she could have got stone bruise on her heel through using the machines.....
Thanks in advance for your advice
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-21 12:53:13
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This article is for anyone in the industry who has been fooled into listening to an engineers opinion of Vibration Training machines .....
3 videos are also being released this week busting more myths in our industry wide open.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-20 13:28:27
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The cost of reconditioning your large Power Plate Pro machine....
It has just come to light that it can cost $4000 per machine to replace all the wearable parts ( only replaced a few parts, nothing major like the motors ) . And this was not a hard worked unit by most studio standards. Anyone purchasing a machine should ask for a redeemable quote ( past the warranty date ) for all parts that might need replacing. And get it in writing, Power Plate are famous for reneging or even outright denying verbal deals. And get the quote from Power Plate head office, as in my country Power Plate have failed and relaunched 4 times, each owner not honoring the lasts promises.
If you have only 1 machine, this might be affordable. But imagine having 4 or more machines, as a business you would be staring down the barrel of a $16,000 bill to keep them looking tidy and running.
Note: The person is now trying to sell the machine for $6000 with no takers. You do the math's.
And Power Plate are not the only ones.....
Some companies are charging $800 for a single set of isolators ( the rubber bits that act like a car suspension system for the plate ) . If these are not replaced the machine becomes uncontrollable or stops vibrating properly.
Note: These companies simply deliberately made parts that break so they can fleece you later. And guess what, you can only use the exact parts they sell. Nothing else will work. Unfortunately the industry is not big enough to make producing generic parts profitable yet. So you really are stuck with the problem.
I hope this is a wake-up call to those who thought my warnings about companies just putting the label "commercial" on anything that moved was not scare mongering or an anti-competitive sales pitch. It is real and a real concern.
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-20 00:20:46
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NuNeedsHelp...
Sounds like an "Earth" signal from the FQ inverter. Which usually only mean a lose wire. A standard electronics mechanic should be able to find the fault.
Was it brand new unit ?
Maya.......
Yes the Crazy-Fit is on the blacklist due to deliberately advertising fake specs. It is a "Slow Speed Pivotal" unit that needs top get to a certain speed to give all the effects they advertise. It does even do half of that. But if you want a slow speed pivotal, then its a good enough unit.
Note: A Lineal units level of effectiveness is how heavy a vibration it can create, not the speed .
Putting , ? - @ etc..... into the comments ? Please use an email program and then copy and paste over to the comments box.
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Maya |
Posted On:2011-02-19 21:10:41
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Hi.
I have been reading a bit in the Internet about this solution and different machines.
Question ... Are you familiar with any gym or any company at all that works with these machines in Israel
i only managed to find the following web site www.crasyDASHf.co.il
which stands for crazy fit massage
sorry but i am not able to write any signs in this comment not a dash sign nor question marks etc...
However, i read in your site that you mentions this in your black list.
Thanks and regards in advance...
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LuNeedsHelp |
Posted On:2011-02-19 20:12:58
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Can someone please help me
I own a DNK GX10 and have recently moved house went to use and now is coming up with an error code
E02 over voltage
it says to press the manual key which ive done and nothing happens
anybody know what to do thanks
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Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train |
Posted On:2011-02-15 20:22:34
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Who is trying to delete / re-write history ?
Comment from a PhD Thesis on Online Consumer Engagement
http://www.ffwd.net.nz/blog/2009/12/consumer-engagement-in-online-communities-formed-around-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-58
" Until March 2008, 324 members posted 2370 comments on 55 articles "..... on vibrationtraining.net
As of today almost every single question and answer has been erased. Literally thousand of consumer education questions and answers, gone. Why delete all the publics questions surrounding Vibration Training. Who would have anything to gain, or better yet something to lose from this data remaining public permanently ( like every other forum on the internet does ).
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