FIVE YEARS OF VIBRATION TRAINING – Here’s the results

http://www.vibeplus.com/2011/04/08/results-of-vibration-training-lloyd-shaw-pics/

Each of the photos was taken impromptu – no special preparation or building up. No lighting or studio preparation and using a simple point and shoot camera.

Thanks for fibromyalgia info and Johnny come lately info.  It would be interesting to know if the Johnny come lately is a marketer or academic.  Sometimes these people seem to be both marketers and academics. 

John Weatherly

Hello there,

As someone who is considering the purchase of a whole body vibration excerciser, I would be most grateful for your feedback.

Im a woman whos extremely deconditioned and who has quite a bit of weight to lose. At this stage i would not be able to do any squats or lunges on the machine, the most I would be able to do at this point is bend my knees a bit and balance on the machine. I am also hoping that at least standing on the machine will help with lymphatic drainage and reduce the swelling in my legs.

I have heard about senior citizens and other disabled and deconditioned folks using the machine with good results, but I would really appreciate a frank and honest answer here. Can an obese person obtain any strengthening and weight loss benefit from this machine or am I not a good candidate.

Also have you heard anything good or bad about the "iFit" whole body vibrator,  its a triangular oscillation vibrator with a motor power of 1000 watts. Theyre selling the item on eBay and the auction listing has a ton of info but naturally that doesnt guarantee reputability. I can email you the link to the auction if you want.

Thanks in advance for your help...Im looking forward to beginning a healthier lifestyle but I dont want to get ripped off in the process.

Can you use Vibra Training if you are pregnant

Thanks Lloyd,

I just want to be clear. So the Wave machines that are on the website are all steel except for the lowest model. I will be sending back my MY5 and getting the Wave Air Reflex. It is all steel construction and according to the site is rated commercial level. Thanks again for your input and advice.

The reason why PowerPlate isn’t taken seriously any more. 

Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=955wsGjSLoI

This is NOT Vibration Training – in fact the guy is hardly in contact with the machine

First read this......  http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/extra-force-better-training-results

The difference between product force is massive. But even though HG stick closer to that formula, they have a bad rep for durability ( which is the risk an engineer takes for increased power. ) 

The steel Wave models are a good all round bet, and they will support the product.

Thanks Di Heap,

I dont think I have been mislead but according to all the research that I am rreading on this site it would not be the best thing for me to keep the PowerPlate. I do a ton of static excercises as well as Kettle Bell lifts and I feel that it works well. As far as the Wave I like the fact that it has the Air Reflex feature which I believe Power Plate stole. It also has a much larger platform. The more research that I do the more I see that Power Plate may not be what is advertised. I am in Phoenix AZ but the cost of the classes and the time it would take out of my schedule would not be worth it. I would rather just buy one for home use. The wave that I would be buying is the 2nd to the highest machine they have.  Thanks

Mike

Thanks for your questions. I’m sure you’ll get a few replies.

You’ve just purchased a My5 – if you believe you’ve been misled in its performance and the results you were promised then send it back but you also say you do feel benefits so I’m not clear on why you are stressing out.  Take a look at the machine reviews here (which you might have done before you purchased)

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews

You say you are already in good shape so you are limited with a home machine like the My5.  You will plateau fairly quickly if you are already trained.  You can go longer – work up to 2 minute positions following  the Safety Program here (http://www.vibra-train.com/exercises-bullet.html), making sure your positions are perfect – get someone to spot you and to read out the clear instructions for getting into and maintaining each position.

See the site above - The big Wave machines rate at the high end of Medium Energy Lineal and a Wave home machine is a bit lower (probably the big machines at the conf.)  But...

Where in the world are you? – Your other options include studio training in some places or paying extra for a High Energy Lineal like BodyShaker or a resale VibroGym Professional  or even the big Wave – if you have a suitable place at home to put one of these heavy machines.

Note: If you are training on a lineal, plastic/fibreglass machine with a low or medium energy motor you will have to train longer and harder, using static regular Vibration Training positions, to get anywhere near the sort of results you can get using a High Energy Lineal Machine. 

Even going longer is not the same due to the intensity of muscle contraction produced by higher energy models.  Brands like PP get people to also do regular dynamic exercises on the machines using the vibration as an “add-on” – that’s why its termed Acceleration Training – it is Not True Vibration Training!  You might get strength and fitness benefits with a dynamic program (along with a somewhat added risk of injury with movement) but then how much more benefit you get for your money spent compared with simply performing those same dynamic exercises without vibration is quite individual.  (Personally I’d prefer to go longer and harder with a static program but that’s just opinion).

Never confuse Acceleration Training with True Vibration Training.

The info on Dr Mercola’s site: Some good discussion but people with a differing opinion got banned or black stamped. That’s because they are promoting the PowerPlate for their own profit not because it is the best machine for any individual to use. I have tried the HyperGravity home machine and it didn’t challenge me at all. Their bigger machines had breakdown issues when used in a studio setting.

After some research the Wave Excercise may be the way to go. Looks like they knocked it out of the park at the recent NFL conf. I have a couple of friends that play and they say that Power Plate may be a thing of the past for them. Lloyd do you give the stamp of approval to Wave for home use

Please someone help me with my decision. I just purchased a Power Plate My5. I really do feel the benefits and the difference. After reading all of these posts I am stressing out. Just to be clear I am in pretty good shape and using for a suppliement to my training. I am looking for something comparable to the my 5. I see that Lloyd is reccomending the WaveExercise and in the past spoke highly of the Hypergravity. I am at a loss with all of the research. It is unfortunate that I also have been keeping up with Dr. Mercola as well. My only deduction is that maybe he does not have all of the facts. So what can I use that would be equal or better than the my5

Another confirmed...

Giovanni Ciriani     Globus     Lineal   Pivotal

This industry brings out the true colours in a person – I’m quite sad to report that Dr Mercola, whose opinion I have respected in many areas of health has totally sold out to PowerPlate.

He’s been selling and actively promoting PowerPlate machines for some time, which is his right to, but this year his articles and videos are downright sales pitch and on the forum/comments section of each article people who state an opinion which is in any way opposing or different to his own get “black marked” and a statement is attached to beware of them.

I questioned the integrity of PowerPlate and rather than reply, I have been completely banned from the Mercola Website. Bad move Dr Mercola.  Now we know all you care about is the mighty Sales $

Just to let people know:

VIBRA-TRAIN are exhibiting at FitX –Sport and Fitness Expo – MELBOURNE, Australia

This weekend, Saturday March 12th and Sunday March 13th, 2011

There are Vibra-Train machines for you to try out and Lloyd Shaw will be there all weekend to answer your questions.

I bet he’ll issue a challenge to see how long you can last in a “Super Squat” on the machines.

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/extra-force-better-training-results

Extra Force = Better Training Results

Reading a forum on another site a supposed “expert” in Vibration Training has listed some machines, both pivotal and lineal, which he says have evidence based, tested results. The problem with this is that the testing of lineal machines is often so limited that it’s not much use –

it allows machines to be evidenced as comparable in output (and presumably in the results the user gets in a workout) when they vary markedly in “force”.

See the article for more information

Enjoyed the recent articles and videos.  Keep up the great work.

John Weatherly