Hi again I should say the model is FMVB499

Hi there

You helped me out a while ago avoid buying a cheap machine. Im now looking to perhaps become a foundation member of a conventional gym that will also have vibration platoforms.  The one they are using is a Freemotion Vertex from HF Industries.  I cant find any info on this machine in your reviews and was wondering if you have any feedback on it.  I would post a link to their website but cant paste in this forum.  Any feedback would be appreciated if you know of this machine or company.  Thanks, Deb

My studio is looking into buying vibration machines and I read that the life span of full commercial high energy linear machines is 3 year+. Does this mean I need to buy new machines every 3 years?

I have seen very litte review of Wave and would appreciate feedback on their machines and which of their models are in the full commercial high energy range. Thanks.

Brice

I’ve taken a nice approach – tried to put up education links and explanations but no more –

I’m not currently selling any machines. There’s never marketing bs from me – I’m concerned that people get accurate information EVEN if that means supporting a company in general but differing in specifics.

Where did I say that TZone machines are no good for weightloss?  Oh and please -  the term is “fat-loss” – go research the difference and see what really counts! You asked about a particular machine. I said I wouldn’t recommend it for fat-loss. Can’t you read?  – I also said maybe but only for beginners and that it does help mobility!

I work with heavy vibration machines every day – I’m gonna tell it like it is!  Advertising does exaggerate, that’s different to the outright lies that companies use to promote their brand. TZone in Oz is cleaning up, in this they deserve support. The US “brother”, not yet.

Why do you go on about “weight-loss” ? – that’s a very important part of the usefulness of Vibration Machines but there’s lots more too.  I have clients that have amazing, lifesaving, results in fat-loss as the studio I work at has high energy machines designed with supportive handlebars and uses a program specifically designed with safety first.  They are lineal and yes I think they are best – I said in my opinion – that’s not marketing, especially as you probably have no access to the brand. I’ll send people to any specific machine (not necessarily brand but machine) that they can access that will help them.

Seriously Brice if you had the balls to put up your full real name we’d be more open to you.  I was at the Oz Fitness expo in Sydney last weekend; it was crawling with personal trainers. You have to be gutsy and stand out from the crowd!  I can’t send people to you, Brice in Western suburbs, to use the TZone machines you have or other training – and I get emails and phone calls about Oz very often. You’ve come in here to provoke, that was stupid!

Loyd I didnt admit I didnt know how it works, I said you guys probably know more than me. I shouldnt have spoken so soon.

You lot support T zone Australia and you recomend them on your website, but on the other hand tell me that there machines are not good for weight loss, even though the CardioTech website says they are. You lot also tell me CardioTech is not the same as T zone, but the CardioTech website even says that CardioTech is a division of T zone and the Canada and Australian companies are run by brothers.

Call me uneducated. hrrmmm

Good luck with your confusing marketing here. What a crock.

Good Morning Brice

There’s no way I’d recommend the small pivotal vibration machines primarily for fat-loss. 

They work on circulation increase, relaxation/stress reduction, bone density, lymphatic drainage, etc.  Of course they are movement against resistance so they will increase metabolism – but how much is the question.  They are Low impact so they also help with injury recovery.

They can improve mobility in obese people so can say they are a starter for fat-loss as long as the machine can cope with the person’s weight and not degrade in performance. The model I think you are referring says max weight 120Kg but I don’t know if it still works to full performance with that weight (many degrade by 80Kg). I have one in the studio and it’s a toy compared with the solid machines (lineal and pivotal) but Its good for for home use for the benefits  above and maybe for warm up pre running/cardio and muscle relaxation after.  Specifically for fat-loss – only as an absolute beginner machine for people who do no exercise at all. (Does the model on the machine look like she needs fat-loss?)

(Cardio-Tech isn’t same as T Zone but they sell their machines)

Here’s a link to Machine Reviews showing many machines and the group they fall into. http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews

Di I read it thanks. Yes CardioTech are the same as T zone Australia I know. I also saw that they have a new machine on there website.

Is the new machine good for weight loss to. It looks smaller and is cheaper.

Look I admit I probably dont know as much about vibration training as you guys, but I am a good trainer and I get my customers results. No need to use insult.

You support T zone Australia, so you also recommend the use of the T zone machine for vibration training, am I right. I also support T zone Australia and I think they are the best machine for weight loss for the money, yes just my opinion. My clients arnt in wheel chairs and dont have life threatening conditions, so if there are machines that are more effective for that, thats fine. You are telling me I sound like a marketer and then tell me that high energy lineal is way better. Sounds like marketing there to me to. I can get good increase in muscle and strength with the T zone to.

Brice, you're really sounding like a marketer – “Best on the market”, and now “Best for everything advertised by T-Zone”

Definitely not best for everyone – not saying they aren't okay machines of their type. Not the best I have available for my wheelchair clients nor my 160kg clients. I have other machines to choose from. I guess you don't. For training, real muscle quality increase (tested by BCA machine) and strength benefits, using a safe program that regular people can use, high-energy, lineal vibration is way better, in my opinion.

70 speeds over say 12 or even 20Hz (on a well designed machine) – perhaps you'd like to explain how that works and the benefits, not just say its a better range. How do 70 speeds differ in effect and what is each used for? Is the frequency not continuous?

Dear Di

I have found the T zone excellent for everything as advertised by T zone. What effects wouldnt it be great for that other machines would. Why spend a fortune on those expensive machines when the T zone will do the job just as well.

70 speeds have to be better than 20 dont they, for a greater range of speeds.

Im a personal trainer based in the western suburbs.

Brice, what sort of studio do you have? Chiroprator?, Health and Fitness? Or ??
I visit Sydney every few months and I'm looking for places to train in the city or city east especially open at weekends.

I'm keen to see T-Zone promote it's brand accurately and have a market share based on having quality products – worldwide – and I'm very active in making sure my corner of the world (Australia, NewZealand) cleans up.

I hate reading that any brand of machine is “The Best” on the market because you have to ask, not ever assume, the best at what? Now you are saying great for weightloss but just about every brand says that – you qualify it by saying it costs less. Now you are making sense, you're saying

“T-Zone, in your opinion, is great for weightloss especially taking into account it's price”.

Good, now we've cleared that up I want you to know there's lots more to Vibration Training than weightloss. As a trainer I work with people from pro-athletes through to people with major disabilities (ie in wheelchair) and life-threatening conditions. I can't imagine the T-Zone meeting the needs of all. In fact I use two slightly different machines of one brand (lineal vibration) and two different pivotal machines (one is a T-Zone) for my clients. For a few of the people I train the little T-Zone (VT-8) is the “best” but I definitely wouldn't train on it myself.

And in advertising – T-Zone don't do themselves any good by advertising 70 speed levels comparing that with 20 for other brands because again, what does it really mean? Definitely not 70Hz and anyway, who says 70 speeds are better? Better for what?