Hi,

What can I expect if I try to make the training really intense and do for example my favourite "Wide stance squat" position for ten minutes in one training? (with little breaks after each minute of course and with replenishing water and carbs). Is the body capable of refilling muscles with glucose fast enough or will the body more likely start to desintegrate the muscles to cover the immediate need for energy? Is such training reasonable? (from time to time) Thanks.

Lloyd,

I’ve spent the past week researching vibration equipment, and the more I read, the more confused I get.  I’m hoping to purchase equipment for home use to slow bone loss (or perhaps even increase bone density) rather than taking osteoporosis medications with scary side effects.  Can you please provide suggestions on suitable equipment available to Canadians.  One model I’ve considered is the Noblerex K1.  I am a 54 year old woman with no history of fractures.  I have early-stage arthritis.  Thanks

I know I’ve said it before but I’m so lucky to work with Lloyd Shaw – to be able to benefit from his thorough knowledge of human anatomy and physiology and to be able to ask questions about various disabilities and ailments people have and how they relate to using the Vibra-Train brand machines.

 He never makes it easy for me; I’m expected to learn fast, to be able to assess clients and choose to use the full program, the program with modifications, or a therapy session depending on what problems the client presents with.  Then there’s the opposite, how to extend those who are stronger or who have fully mastered the safety workout program.

I encourage everyone who finds this forum to read all the articles that are about what they want to find out.  Also to watch the YouTube videos, which include a full course for Instructors that everyone can watch plus advanced and alternative positions.  Some of these are only possible when using a Vibra-Train brand machine with side handlebars.  You cannot do them on PowerPlate brand machines. There’s even a video called “The Truth about Vibration Training” and one about “Machine Composition” and what’s needed to get results

And if you have a question after all that ASK on here or if you need an urgent answer on a serious medical issue contact Lloyd by email or phone the Auckland Vibra-Train Studio.  Vibration training is very effective and safe fitness training for just about everyone as long as the right machine and program is used.

Lloyd, good article re “Why do my jeans feel tighter”

It’s a good explanation and puts it into the right perspective in terms easy to understand.

We get that same question regularly from clients at our Vibra-Train studio in Albany.

It is also an endorsement that working out on good quality high energy lineal machines gets results!

BodyShaker Junior Is really out of my budget.

This more close to what i can afford at the moment but i dont know if its any good.

http://www.vibrationmachine.biz/store/uk/vibration-machine-vitality750-exercise-platform.html

I just want to make it clear about the recommendations given by the panel of experts on whole body vibration studies in the recent Journal of Musculoskeletal and Neuronal Interactions are what Lloyd Shaw has been saying ever since I started corresponding with him several years ago.  For example, equipment needs to be tested prior to research studies to make sure it performs as the manufacturer claims.  The entire body of research literature is contaminated because researchers have not done this.  They have missed the elephant in the room as Lloyd has said.

And yes Wayne Campbell, there are ol boy networks and just plain evil people.  Organizations like the NSCA have covered stuff up in the past which I could go into great detail about.  It has to do with the Founding Father of the NSCA not following guidelines he helped the NSCA make up himself.  When this was reported, it was all covered up.  And the cover up involved university professors who knew about it, the NSCA Executive Director, scientists who are NSCA Fellows and associate editors of NSCA journals, etc.  Nothing was done.  It was all covered up because if the truth came out it would make the Founding Father of the NSCA and all these scientists and others hooked up with the NSCA look bad.  It would damage the credibility of all of them.  So, it was swept under the rug. 

John Weatherly

Here you can see what brands are avaliable in the Greek Market

http://www.skroutz.gr/c/810/pathhtikh-gymnastikh.html?price_min=500&price_max=1300

I dont have a problem to order online from another country though .

Any recomendations

I live in Greece. Suffice it to say that its really difficult to try any platforms here.I have only see only  Power plate machine in some gyms.

The PulseTrainer  -  depends on what you want it for.  Just standing upright on it, on the Tilt/see-saw setting, it’s safe and effective increasing circulation and gently activating, releasing tension in legs, hips, back. Helps relieve backache. Helps tighten up pelvic region – good for women.

On the Flat setting you must bend your knees so you are in a semi squat position plus there are other poses but it’s terribly limited being so low to the ground and has a rough feel in my opinion.  It could be used pre and after going for a run – warm up/cool down.

You’re not going to see much in the way of muscle build or fat-loss. It’s just not strong enough force for that and if you used Vibra-Train you’ll have already noticed this.  Personally I like the Pulse Trainer and use one but only for gentle stimulation and pelvic tightening =Therapy , Vibra-Train for Training.

No there’s no Vibra-Train studio out west. It’s just a matter of time though – for someone to want to use a machine enough to set up a studio.

Check out the machine types here http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews

Does anyone have any information regarding the Motioncraft VM2 Pulse Trainer

From what I see it looks to be a suitable Vibration Training machine for home use, rather than a straight Vibration Therapy machine, but Im no physicist - quite the opposite actually.  I have hired one for a month to get a feel for it and how it works before making a final decision on whether to purchase it, but Im still wondering what the advice is from here.  I have used the VibraTrain machines at the studio in Tauranga but it was a few years ago and only for a short number of sessions.  The problem for me is that here in West Auckland there dont seem to be any suitable studios and the city is a long way to go.

Also I understand that the machine will be good for building muscle etc but not losing weight, or am I just getting confused by the information out there... it seems you can find information that supports pretty much anyones claims but I do believe that Lloyd offers good, unbiased advice.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Or get her to ring Fair Go...  consumer  watchdog program.

Let them call and record the conversation.

It’s been a busy morning here at Vibra-Train, Auckland City. I’ve paid special attention to client’s muscle profile taking note of which level (or force) of machine they use.

All customers get muscle build. The girls love the way the Level 2 machines firm up their arms and trim their waistlines and you can see this, small firm arm muscles look good as well as there’s the practical increase in strength and skeletal support.

There’s a young guy in studio now. He’s a uni student and he’s tall and genetically/racially big.  He first came in around 6 months ago and he wasn’t easy to train as he struggled with maintaining positions.  He looked  “blobby” and I doubted he’d continue coming – I was so wrong! 

Now he looks amazing! He has such definition in muscle in legs, arms, abs, shoulders (the forgotten area in a lot of gym based training) and he holds himself well, not stooping as before.  He’s graduated through the machine levels –from level 2 to level 5 (the athletes machine) and now he mixes it up and uses a different machine level each time.

I’ve had at least two customers recently with queries that they’re building quad muscles that are too big!  These are triathletes or marathon runners; they don’t want “big” so they avoid the level 5 machine but in race events they find the extra muscle gives them endurance and a race time that’s more evenly spread over the kms and they stop worrying.

Tell me another Vibration Machine brand where guys complain that they are getting too muscular or getting too much result.  

Lloyd is correct.  He has been saying what is in the ISMNJ Guidelines review paper ever since I have been corresponding with him.

John Weatherly

I do not understand how researchers would not firstly check the Vibration Machine was working to the specs the supplier or manufacturer stated.  Also stating the type of machine, its composition plus the magnitude of force produced etc. I expect the researcher to know what things need to be known and how they could affect the study results.  

Only then other factors - like the abilities, disability or health issues of the test subjects, along with things like duration, the exercise positions etc, come into it and real results can be measured.

Lloyd Shaw has been saying this for 6 years but the academics (so called “experts “in WBV) kept neglecting machine testing – and now those same “experts” are recommending it as if it’s something new they’ve figured out . What’s worse they’re still leaving out the important factors and going for the minor or extra ones.

In my opinion they are totally negligent and by their lack of earlier action companies like PowerPlate, VibraFlex and others have been able to promote the “any machine composition is okay” idea. Now the market is flooded with low quality crap that we have to speak out against and get rid of. These “experts” need to be held to account.