herin lies the problem as i see it. On your videos you admit that home gym machines are ok  people go to a gym as who can afford so many machines right
a vibe studio has just that one machine which wont do as much as free weights etc

Al, you wrote the above.  Have you ever used a Vibra-Train brand or other high force Vibration machine?  I’m laughing at the comment that it wont do as much as free weights.  Come into the City Studio and I promise to send you away exhausted and prove you wrong.  (I have nothing against free weights)

Some home machines are okay.  A person who does their homework first and asks lots of questions of salespeople, and has the money for a “better” machine, might buy something that is okay.  Useful for starting off in vibration (therapy more than real exercise), okay for someone who is obese or unfit; okay for sports people as a warm-up and cool-down.  Most people will quickly plateau on even a “better” home machine or in the case of a cheapo pivotal, it will soon become another piece of ‘as seen on tv” junk taking up room in the back shed or on TradeMe for re-sale.

I’ve been involved with Vibra-Train for three years; long enough to see heavy metal hulls, top quality motors, metal handlebars, all of which weigh a ton (figuratively of course but I can’t even think of moving them).  These parts cost heaps.  Also control units with electronics.  What do you want?  A breakdown of proof of costs? 

I’m unsure of the motives of some people here apart from slinging off at Lloyd because he’s been arrogant enough to do things the “Kiwi way” – and build a better machine than big commercial companies could provide.  Better = higher results for the consumer;  machines that don’t break down so full up-time for studio owners etc

Read this article http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/general-consumer-warning-about-cheap-pivotals and if you want more information contact Lloyd directly.  He has a purchase order showing prices.  He will always back up everything he says with proof.

Al, I edited the videos (to remove some session pricing info relevant to N.Z. only).  I don’t know where Lloyd says 80 and 80000, will re-watch later and see if I can find it.

Hi Di, sure what 80 to 8000. I understand you cant compare a low cost machine to Lloyds machine but 12k .....can you explain to this . Am i correct in what i said

Mr Wright, the person/company Lloyd is telling of – they make low cost machines which cannot be compared to steel platform Vibra-Train in material costs.

I think what Lloyd is saying is that the 12k cost is because technically the company he buys the parts from is part of the vibra train group and they charge that much. Im also aware that hand built watches can cost 10k so why not a military grade motor that has titanium parts or gold wiring etc. The 80 to 8000 was a mistakethat is BS

I have a fishing reel which cost 3000 to buy

18000 not 1800

Al,you took my thunder,lol

Lloyd just watched part 5 of the youtube sessions. You claim 80 bucks and sell for 8000. Think you want to edit that out as even the drug P isnt that good. Also how do your machines cost 12 to 18k in raw material costs. Honest question. Im an engineer at Air NZ and I see lots of tech. What is in this machine that makes it so expensive

herin lies the problem as i see it. On your videos you admit that home gym machines are ok

people go to a gym as who can afford so many machines right

a vibe studio has just that one machine which wont do as much as free weights etc

so the home market may be fine but i cant see much growth in studios. where are all your oulets lloyd. I read you had  15 or 20 now

I just had a look and sure you have to admit Power Plate site looks great  El Mcpherson endorses them and she knows a shit load about fitnesslook at her. Plus they have a bunch of awards. Comes back to the same thing trust a respected retailer like Elite i guess. They reckon outside their product power plate was pretty good and commercially make the most popular units

You are very qiuck to tell everyone how you dont sell machines. Please state your postion relating to your conflict of interest. Do you not lease machines,sell fanchises,take comission payments from studios in the vibration business around New Zealand. This is your income, is it not. are you not a salesman with one objective. To make money in this industry.

Amanda,

please get back in touchwe can resolve your problem no issue. If you start blabbing online then we will walk away. The 600 excess was explained upfront and is due to the labour involved. You actually bought the machine from an old company I was a director of so legally i have no obligation. speak to you soonleave me a message ill be back in NZ in 4 weeks after my honeymoon

Is that correct Lloyd. Id watch that as the guy told me they will be supplying commercial stuff for vibe studios this year. vibe with a plus sign i think. Check it out.

As I mentioned Glenda, there are a bunch on Trademe. They do the job for 800 thats your only option. I tried the studios and you look like a complete muppet

Can anyone please let me know where to buy a trainer from. I can afford up to  800 dollars,any comments on a good brand or where to buy from would be good. Regards Glenda

it wont let me paste the linkand i stand corrected. it says vibrafit are the service agents.

hi there is a 2k vibrafit machine on TM which looks sweet. Heard great thingsany advice

Thanks  Adany